1. Only members with at least several months or years of active membership to flag the ads. This alleviates the problem of hateful users who may create handles to red flag ads from unwanted competitors.
2. Only members with a minimum number of reviews to the handle they are using to flag the ads. This increases the changes that a reputable RB reviewer is the one flagging the ad.
3. It requires at least three credible members to flag it before the ad is automatically taken down. This decreases the chance of someone alone feeling in power. Additionally, a check to see if not the same group of people, almost acting as one, and require different members will spread "democracy".
4. If the provider insist and puts the ad back, it will be taken down one more time, after flagging. If she does a third time, the ad is taken down after flagging, but the offender handle is banned. She or management may be persistent, when a red flag happens, the offender IP should be stored. If offender tries to create another handle to continue the practice, the originating IP --or its range-- should be banned.

I think this would create incentive for shills to drive up their review count, thus leading to more bogus reviews and less faith in the review system.

>She or management may be
>persistent, when a red flag happens, the offender IP should
>be stored. If offender tries to create another handle to
>continue the practice, the originating IP --or its range--
>should be banned.

Except that most users don't have a persistent IP and lots of ladies post from hotel / motel rooms, so IP banning is not as simple as we might wish.

Ultimately, I think reform needs fewer opportunities for negative side effects.

The current review system has some flaws, just like any many other systems that also depend on direct user input. I am sure RB is working on improving it, and by then the reviews by themselves would better fulfill its original intent, and bogus reviews would be very few, if any. Then the number 2 recommendation will work much better, and as part of the requirements for a better way to flag fake ads.

>Except that most users don't have a persistent IP and lots of ladies post from hotel / motel rooms, so IP banning is not as simple as we might wish.

Of course they do not =), and they do not need to. RB should use the same principles of intrusion detection in use by some servers authentication systems. I see this technique in use in a different setup to temporarily ban IPs from computers attempting to attack a server. The "ban" of the IP would not be permanent. It should last only for some hours or even a couple of days. A lady posting a fake ad would be, therefore, discouraged to create more handles and post because of having to wait an unspecified amount of time for the IP ban to be released and be allowed to post again. This ban will only be applied to the posting of ads function.

We've seen these two do WONDERFUL work helping the members at large protect themselves.

After all is said and done there needs to be some sense of fairness and the long term members that pimp and otherwise shouldn't really have the opportunity to flag.

Perhaps there could be a 3 tiered rating system.

#1 COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE, (no need for any action)

#2 QUESTIONABLE, (to be removed if found to be fake)

#3 ABSOLUTELY FAKE, (to be removed immediately)

Of course, ONLY if the two of them are WILLING to take on the responsibility.

Or, privately appoint FAKE AD hall monitors to remain anonymous, thereby eliminating the possibility of the obvious hatred, fear and public flames that WOULD occur.

dasmith/ponyplayer I apologize in advance for (figuratively speaking) appointing you guys. But, IMHO it's about time someone recognizes you two some more PUBLICLY and thanks you both again for your consideration and actions in this area.

tra

Your heart and soul is what I came for...

I think that Redbook should do something like other sites do, like providers should pay a fee for post on classifieds and Redbook should verify their photos before these can be placed on their Ads. We want to get what we see on their ads and not for fake photos.

I've decided to place these fake ads in Neighborhood Watch, after having had a terrible experience with krina 415-424-0459 See Neighborhood Watch for more details. I will do my best to help to the community.