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windowshopping2
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"Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
 
   I read the provider reviews and I see some guys give a lady a negative review because they didn't stick their tongue down their throat or because the half hour session went straight to fucking then out the door.

Especially on the reviews for half hour sessions, I find it absurd that anyone complains that all they got was a fuck out of it. The fuck, generally, is the point, along with some butt and tit grabbing, etc. It's only a half hour. I think it's fairly reasonable to expect a provider to get down to business of getting the client off and out the door within thirty minutes.

Tongue kissing. Is it reasonable to get upset because someone doesn't want to have your tongue in their mouth? Myself, first of all, I do not want to stick my tongue into the mouth of someone who makes a living swallowing cock. Secondly, tongue kissing is a personal thing, an expression of actual passion. Everything is for sale in this world, but you know, ardor is ardor, and sex is well, just sex. If you really want ardor, lose some weight and cultivate it or step up to paying more for it. I think it's unfair to demand that from a thirty minute session or a $200 provider.

Sometimes, a fuck is just a fuck.

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1. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   Well if all guys just wanted a fuck and nothing else, then the girls wouldn't have to put in their adds what services they offer. They would just all offer a basic fuck. Different guys like different things. You personally don't like to kiss providers. Well I love it and I specifically look for that in a provider. If she doesn't offer it, thats fine and her right, but its also my right to pay the providers that will offer the service that I want. I think that title of your post is important. It says 'why GFE isn't important to YOU. If GFE wasn't important to other guys then providers wouldn't offer it. If a girl is charging $200.00 and says that she is offering GFE, then she should provide it.

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2. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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Two good posts.

Between the two of you, I'd say you guys did a pretty fair job of presenting both sides of the argument.

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15. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   LAST EDITED ON 24-Jan-10 AT 07:28 PM (PST)
 
I think that title of your post is important. It says 'why GFE isn't important to YOU.

Right, exactly, you are spot on. My words were chosen carefully to emphasize that this is how I feel for myself. In no way is do I mean for that to be an absolute or the way the world should be.

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3. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   >I think it's unfair to demand that from a thirty minute session or a $200 provider.

How the heck did the issue of "fairness" get into this? Can you explain? I'd be curious what your hourly rate is and what services we can "fairly" request from you? Are you aware that there are providers who do not "want to" have sex with you (as in the penetration; i.e. the physical act) for any amount of time or money but will tolerate your ministrations because nowhere else can they make that kind of money with a comparable skill set? They would object vigorously to your request to get right down to the "basic fuck". The storied AK47 was on record as saying that she paced her sessions to "keep the pumping action to ten minutes". That, my friend, is the "fair" reality. A provider has the right to set her menu and her limits and to ask for what she perceives to be an appropriate hourly rate. You are free not to see her if that does not coincide with your desires or financial prowess, so be it. Beyond that, if you pay her agreed upon rate it is absolutely fair to "demand" from her what she offered in her ad. The same way that it is fair to demand that a provider advertised as 21-25 is not an Über-Milf.

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4. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   LAST EDITED ON 24-Jan-10 AT 08:27 AM (PST)
 
>Are you aware that there are providers who do not "want to" have >sex with you (as in the penetration; i.e. the physical act) for
>any amount of time or money but will tolerate your
>ministrations because.......

That's it in a nutshell. They don't "want" to do any of it.


GFE isn't just kissing. BBBJ is the important part for me. I could care less about kissing and only do it if the provider initiates it.

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5. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   "A provider has the right to set her menu and her limits and to ask for what she perceives to be an appropriate hourly rate. You are free not to see her if that does not coincide with your desires or financial prowess, so be it. Beyond that, if you pay her agreed upon rate it is absolutely fair to "demand" from her what she offered in her ad."

Exactly so. Another way of saying the above is that truth in advertising applies here, just as it does in every other solicitation of your hard earned $'s in exchange for any other good or service. The difference here, of course, is that the solicitation of money in exchange for sexual services is still illegal in this state. As a result, many ads in the escort section of this and other sites are suitably vague, requiring you as the consumer to due your own due diligence and find out exactly what is on offer for the suggested "donation" rate.

The issue of fairness comes into play only when the specifics have been spelled out and agreed to, so that if DFK is explicitly on offer for the requested donation rate, then not to receive it after paying in advance for that service is unfair. Conversely, if Greek is not on offer, and you as the consumer fail to clarify whether or not the hourly rate donation price includes that carnal delight, you can not "fairly" get all butt hurt (pardon the cheap shot humor here) if she denied you that third hole shot.

If GFE is truly irrelevant to you, then you're actually in a better position than many of us here, because while it's very possible to explicitly describe what acts are and are not on offer, the ardor, passion, or "into-itness" of a provider are far less subject to precise delineation - hence the proviso, "Your mileage may vary." Sadly, for those like myself for whom true GFE remains the gold standard, its actual delivery is far from assured regardless of what's promised. The old carnie adage seems to apply here: "You pay your money and you take your chances."

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6. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   Here is my perspective on this. After seeing many different providers over a long period of time, I had a chance to sample many different services, such as GFE, RBGFE, BBBJ, BBBJCIM, DATY, Rimming, LK/DFK, etc..

Over time, I developed a liking for certain services and not for others. So, it is now normal for me to expect certain services for a session to be judged a successful one.

Hence, when deciding who to see next, I take into consideration the services that I really enjoy. Granted, someone else may not care about the same services as I do. Also, my reviews emphasize the services that I care about most.

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7. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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Window-
"I read the provider reviews and I see some guys give a lady a negative review because they didn't stick their tongue down their throat or because the half hour session went straight to fucking then out the door"

There is nothing inherently wrong with that at all- unless her ad indicated unrushed GFE for the 1/2 hour.

Some providers are very honest in their ads and some are horrific liars. The term GFE is now almost automatic in many ads. If it proves not to be true in session, then they all need to be called out in a review which is probably what you saw.

Now if a bad review is left because she did not perform services not advertised, then she can have the review alerted and possibly removed if she could prove it was unfair.

It is not about you. It is about what the provider advertises vs how she lives up to what she advertises. If the provider does not state in her ad that she is tug/rub or CMT only and someone shows up ready to get busy, can you see the complications there.

A LOT of women are very clear as to what they do not do (no dkf,no greek..etc) I think because it is not illegal to advertise things you do not do.

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8. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   A lot of different opinions here and that's what these forums are about. So my opinion would be if a girl advertises gfe,rbgfe,etc... Then whether it's a half hour or an hour she should provide what she offers. And clients should expect to get what is offered. I for one will sometimes book half hours to see if the girl is worth the hour. She is working for me and if she wants my business again she needs to impress me with what she offers.And to my satisfaction. Lol. She will get an honest review based on my first meeting. It's all about what you want out of a provider and how well she provides it. Girls need look up the definitions of rb before posting. Should be a requirement and there would be less confusion.Just my 2 cents.

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9. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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The one part of the OP I can agree with is in regards to the half-hour session. Considering the showers, one really has about 20 minutes of action so I find it amusing when I read reviews and some half-hour guy writes that he felt rushed. Even funnier when I see the same comment for a blo 'n go.

Review scores are all about expectations. If I see a woman who advertises RBGFE services and doesn't provide them with me, then points will be deducted even if it was a good session. However, I could see another non-GFE lady who provides exactly the same services as the first one, with the same performance level, and she'll get a better grade from me. Moral of the story is that truth in advertisement pays at least here on RB.

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19. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   LAST EDITED ON 25-Jan-10 AT 05:08 PM (PST)
 
My thoughts are also in line with you. It is all about what is agreed upon before the appointment is confirmed. I have had ladies come and deny that they agreed to DFK or LFK. I agree to the donation based on the servises discussed. So, in my case, that would be the first and last time I would see such a person. In other words I don't want to be short changed.

Also it drives me mad if someone has bogus pictures!

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10. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   Agree with you totally
" I do not want to stick my tongue into the mouth of someone who makes a living swallowing cock."


Don't agree
"I think it's unfair to demand that from a thirty minute session or a $200 provider."

Most on this board forget that there is no rule in nature that when two people fuck one of them has to pay for it. Since a whore is charging for it she can determine what she will do and how much she wants for it. I suppose the market will determine how busy she is.

This is why I stick to the sugar baby/np route, there you can get the 'ardor'

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17. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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>Most on this board forget that there is no rule in nature
>that when two people fuck one of them has to pay for it.

not to thread jack but i disagree with you on this. just flip on national geographic and you'll see it all over nature in one form or another

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11. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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LAST EDITED ON 24-Jan-10 AT 02:29 PM (PST)
 
HHHhhhmmm . . .

Certainly expecting the entire menu in such a short session may not be reasonable, but other thoughts to be considered in your response.

By noting your preference for not partaking in GFE

Are you married or have SO and this is just about variety?
Is this just about hitting hotties? (kind of goes along with the 1/2 hour)
If so, I can see why you may not want a GFE as you might already get that at home (or you may not enjoy 'as much').

If I were to choose, I'd prefer a longer session that allows MSOG and perhaps other menu selections, like DFK. I might also consider someone not in the $200-1/2 hour range. I also don't partake as often as in days past, so who is to say...

Different strokes, different folks (literally).

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12. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   I agree with the first guy in this disgussion. Also what about all the new stains of STDs out there? Many you can get easily from just kissing. I wouldnt trust any of the providers after they have been with some of you unclean guys. Ive heard stories of the risky behavior that goes on and it shocks me that no one values there health anymore.

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13. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   >Also what about all the new strains of STDs out there?

Could you humor us and name several of "all the new strains", please. Especially those transmitted by kissing. Thanks.

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14. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   I think a lot of providers just offer GFE because it's the current 'hot' thing,not because they actually like doing GFE.
They do it to stay competitive.
I'm sure if teabagging were the next hot thing,you'd see a ton of ads from "LadyLipton" and "TinaTetley".

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18. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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LAST EDITED ON 25-Jan-10 AT 01:18 PM (PST)
 
Ladylipton and Tinatetly. LMAO. I'd see them for sure. What. Am I looking
for in a provider??? My penis. What Is embarassing is when she is looking for it as well

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16. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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It sure is nice to have that option though. Sometimes you want some GFE, sometimes you don't!

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20. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   couldn't care less about GFE... personally, i'm there to take care of business. don't really like to DFK with someone who just finished servicing 5 other dudes.

however, i do understand why some would seek it out. it's just not my thing.

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21. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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While I can see both sides of the coin. My thoughts usually fall towards the (Fuck is just a Fuck)POV.
In my (fantasy world), all the Johns and the Janes would keep themselves clean and provide STD paperwork of their last checkup as nonchalantly as we place the $$ in plain sight.

Then GFE would be what it's supposed to be

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22. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   LAST EDITED ON 31-Jan-10 AT 09:39 AM (PST)
 
Lately GFE is not a big deal and not a deal breaker for me either. I was with a young gal recently and we were talking about GFE. She said this included BBBJ but she was no longer doing DFK because the last time she did it, this guy had strep throat and she was in the hospital for a few days. That got me thinking. Is it worth it to have someone's tongue down my throat and worry about getting strep? Nope.


A 3-hole girl is better than 9 holes of golf!

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23. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   >That got me thinking. Is it worth it to have someone's tongue down my throat and worry about getting strep? Nope.

What you describe is a consideration that beside any form of mouth-2-mouth kissing applies to all uncovered services such as DATY and BBFS. It also should apply to BBBJs as a courtesy to your provider. Yes, *you* know you don't have anything. But does *she* know?

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25. "RE: Sometimes a Fuck is Just a Fuck - Why GFE is Irrelevant to Me"
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   I would say that I wished I could look at sex like that sometimes but then I would be just lying

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