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miker94115
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"How much screening do others participate in?"
 
   Frankly, I have been going to AMPS because they dont require phone calls or any sort of screening whatsoever. You walk in, anon, and that's it. Are others comfortable giving your ID to providers? This Tiger Woods, Heidi Fleiss, senator-whats-is-name stuff gets to me. Anyone else?

But this prevents me from seeing some of the hotties I want to, who get great reviews. Any advice?

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meiji click here to view user rating
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1. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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Depends on the provider. I'm fine with screening where they want references or if they want basic information (first name, physical description, what sort of job I have), but I won't see anyone where the org or the provider wants full name/employer, etc. I got a Preferred 411 account, and that's helped get some references, and they are very discreet with employer verification, but there aren't a ton of providers (especially asian providers) in the Bay Area that use P411.

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2. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   Personally, I would not be comfortable seeing anyone that did not require screening... I figure if she is not concerned with her safety, she certainly won't be concerned with mine.. I would never give out personal information, only references of others I have seen before. The trick is getting your first reliable reference. It has always been a quick and painless process, but I am also very careful in my research...

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miker94115
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3. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   So, who is a good first reliable reference? Any suggestions?

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punebiztrip
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11. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   I would like to know how to get the first reference too! This is like we are trying to get a credit card when there is no credit history. Very frustrating. Any suggestion would be very helpful!

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4. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   Very little, if any.

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VonClitzentitz
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8. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   >I figure if she is not concerned with her safety, she certainly won't be concerned with mine..

Uh, right! And now she is. I feel much better.

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TomBall
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5. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   NONE!

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NealDown click here to view user rating
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6. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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I started out giving out personal info (real name plus showing CDL if requested) and did not have a hobby-only email nor phone. After dealing with a stalker who was pissed off because of a well-deserved mediocre review and reading about guys who have been blackmailed, outed or named in agency busts, I decided that I would no longer provide anything more than provider references. Yes, that does eliminate me from being able to see some ladies but I'd rather have the peace of mind of knowing I can't be tracked down in real life.

And yes, I support the right of each and every provider to ask for whatever info she feels she needs in order to secure her safety. But that works both ways.

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7. "as much as is necessary"
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LAST EDITED ON 26-Jan-10 AT 06:48 PM (PST)
 
This biz is like getting job experience to land that job you really want.

You have to work less desirable jobs to get the street cred to help land the more desirable jobs.

It's one of the ugly and expensive truths about the hobby.

There is much to recommend about aamps, amps, and tamps. My theory is that it is not a sidebar to FS and FBSM escorts, but rather that it is the larger proportion of what hobbyists do.

Be the change
you wish to see

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9. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   I'll give my first name and a vague description of my work, along with references of other providers who can verify that I'm a safe client. I give out the gmail account that I created specifically for hobbying, as it helps verify my identity for reference checks with ladies who I met after contacting them by email. It's the same as giving out the number on my hobby phone.

I won't give out my RB handle. I've been asked for it twice just this week and the answer is always a polite "no." I've been a little loose lipped with one lady who I've seen many times over multiple years and though I don't think I have anything to cause myself concern, I wish I hadn't been so casual about telling her my personal details.

I think it's worthwhile to submit to a casual screening and it unlocks the doors for visits with some top notch ladies. It's a safety precaution and I feel a little better about things meeting ladies who care enough to take the time. I won't give out the kind of information that a group like the 408 Girls asks for, though I did provide that level of info to a well respected provider before I had any sense or references. This was years ago.

Some providers will let you slide on not having a reference if you can provide a credible explanation why it's lacking. Can't hurt to ask.

Good luck!

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10. "I'm not comfortable with it"
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I don't see providers who ask for references and as one poster said in another thread, many of these providers use this as a sneaky way to avoid seeing certain clients because of their race.

The main reason though is that it violates my need to be discreet.

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12. "RE: I'm not comfortable with it"
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   Well,I'm just your average white guy, but if any provider, regardless of her race didn't want to see me because of my race, I think I would want to see someone else... Not sayin' what's right or wrong, but if I'm spending my money I want the best experience possible.. I don't think I would see 95% of the girls who advertise on RB for all kinds of different reasons.... and it has nothing to do with race..

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13. "RE: I'm not comfortable with it"
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   many providers say in their ad to othe rproviders that they are reference friendly...see one of them a time or two and there is your solid reference

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20. "RB is the reference"
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Yes this is the typical "average white guy" response. Easy to take a position of indifference when it comes to race. Not so for others who face discrimination because of their race on a daily basis in other areas outside of RB.

I prefer truthful advertising. If you don't see people of different races, then that should be clear in your ad. You shouldn't indicate that you provide GFE (to all) and then require references, so you can use the references to discriminate based on race. It creates bad blood and an element of distrust between the client and his reference because he isn't sure that she said something that caused the provider to turn him down despite her claim otherwise. I don't care for the sneaky, deceptive advertising, don't care for racist providers, don't care for others to know who I'm seeing (especially another provider), and don't care for the inconvenience or delay that reference checks impose. I realize that we're dealing with a lot of pimped providers where race is relevant, so maybe the requirement for references is a way to weed out pimped providers.

Providers advertise on RB, so they should use the RB rating system as a reference. If a RB client wants to see them, they merely need to check his ratings and comments, do a search on his previous posts, and ask providers who commented in his ratings. If they have any questions, they can inbox the client. RB is the best source as a reference for RB clients and RB providers IMO.

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14. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   None. Can of worms. Can't you offer to meet them for coffee first or something?

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15. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   What ever you do. Don't go to Kissable Cuties.

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/soapz/7471.html

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16. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   I have decided to forego the whole reference thing. There are plenty of great providers that do not require them.

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jeromeo15
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17. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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Start off w/ providers who don't require references, then use them as a reference. Duh!

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18. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   If the providers you see are "dancers" at Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theater, how far will that get you?

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19. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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I started off with a few providers that didn't require a reference as well as attending a mixer where I got to know both hobbyist and providers.

The last provider I saw that required references I meet
in one of the chat rooms and since we both new some of the hobbist and probiders in the room it cleared the way for our first session. YMMV.

Like others have said, I feel more comfortable with a screening processes for both the safety of the provider and myself.

The only personal information I share is my first name and that's it.

Hope that helps

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21. "Whatever is necessary -"
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I provide references and any reasonable information an escort requests.
I have never had a problem of any kind.
But I only see escorts that have established reputations, and that probably accounts for my good fortune with this.

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22. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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There is a multitude of "hotties" that don't require references. Read the ads carefully and you will see that some do not mention references required. Most of the 5* providers do not divulge race or even ask each other about it. They want to primarily know 1. Is he safe? 2. Does he respect boundaries? 3. Would you see him again?

I am sure that the 2 ladies I use as references don't divulge my ethnicity as several providers have told me they had no idea of my race.

Grip
Love to dive where it's wet

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23. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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I refuse to provide references. It's hard enough trying to get hold of one provider much less 3 providers who have to get back with another provider. it is a losing proposition, at least for me. So far, it has worked out well for me.

fyi- a lot of providers who supposedly require references do not require them at the end of the month (for some strange reason-lol).

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24. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   No discussion of screening, thankfully; a high end hotel room put the girl I set up a date with at ease. My first experience with a pro (to my knowledge - haha) so no industry references, and there's absolutely no way I'd give a work reference. I respect the need for screening or some other safeguard on girls' end, and this was a good way to take care of both of us.

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25. "RE: How much screening do others participate in?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 09-Feb-10 AT 09:50 PM (PST)
 
I avoid screening as much as I can. I have done "light" screening for my first LA provider. If anyone wants more than that ... NEXT! There are too many other providers who don't require screening and are just as good or better in looks/service.

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