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"Your opinions on the Underground"
 
   The UG has always been (more or less) a safety "vent" where others can whine and otherwise bitch about something here on the main board.

It has never been anything more than comical at times and nothing to take seriously.

Only CM's who registered years back can post without the " * " after whatever handle is used to post and thus have a post count show up btw although that doesn't mean much.

As many know, it's pretty much a toilet at times, although when FrenchKiss aka SisterPatricia was an active moderator, it had some entertaining threads.

Given all this, would you support bringing back the UG to the way it was? Remember when photos could be posted and (years ago) links to "upstairs"?

Personally, I feel it serves a purpose and would be delighted to take 'ol FK's place and make it as trashy as it once was yet still fun.

Personal info and a few other things that have always been off limits would remain.

OR.........are the current multitude of "high drama" forums enough action for everyone?

Comments welcome.

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1. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-Feb-10 AT 08:26 PM (PST)
 
Humor is a very small part of UG moderator responsibility.
This is where some RB members sensitive information are posted.

I am sure all moderators including Stephanie is constantly on alert.
Plus they have to sort through all those lame requests i.e " so and so posted I have small penis and thats a lie.. take it down" requests.

Are you ready for such commitment?

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3. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-Feb-10 AT 08:44 PM (PST)
 
>Plus they have to sort through all those lame requests i.e "
>so and so posted I have small penis and thats a lie.. take
>it down" requests.
>
>Are you ready for such commitment?

Are you even REMOTELY serious PO? Really? I have over 2800 alerts for the year 2009, I think I can handle some in the UG.
How long have you been on RB to even ask me that question. Of course that post would remain. It is the "UG" and supposed to be where stupid shit like that goes.

To answer your question simply -- this isn't upstairs where everyone better follow the rules or I'll toast them, this is the UG, a different venue entirely, and totally different so a dumb alert like that would be dismissed.

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5. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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>To answer your question simply -- this isn't upstairs where
>everyone better follow the rules or I'll toast them, this is
>the UG, a different venue entirely, and totally different so
>a dumb alert like that would be dismissed.

Eggzackly, really, only personal info should be deleted from there; It does say after all : "lies are here, come and get some"

When the UG works, it can be a place of truthtelling, though those can be difficult to discern and too seldom.

But truth has been told there often enough. Truths that the many many internet white knights (a.k.a. lapdogs) shout down here and deserve a voice.

That, and I miss all those pix I posted long ago.

Damn hd crashed, they're all lost. We'll never see severed penis or mudflap hanging under moomoo again, oh almost forgot, guy with own dick in ass, that was a sight to bleach from one's eyes. *sigh*

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2. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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The UG is a sewer of cowardly mouth breathers.

It should be eliminated. It's time that RB realized that it's evolving, and to amputate the gangrenous rotting parts of it that are stinking the place up.

Be the change
you wish to see

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4. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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   In your view, is there a possibility that it can serve any useful purpose?

If not, what reasons can you articulate that it be shut down and/or be improved?

Just want some thought out comments. Thanks.

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8. "Why keep the UG?"
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Useful purpose?

Perhaps, if one believes in the "combat zone" theory where aberrant behavior can be controlled if there is a free fire zone where it's permitted. The problem with that theory is that in an enclosed space like an internet site, it doesn't work that way, because the UG is not a subway ride away; it's a click away.

Plus, I've repeatedly seen UG rivalries migrate into the regular forums, because the UG is a way for people to slander and motherfuck people behind their back, and unfortunately, too many users tend to believe it.

Improved? How can you improve a place where people constantly lie about others and attack them?

The UG doesn't deserve much consideration, because it's simply a place where people get their jollies by putting other people down. What's to consider? It's evil on its face.

How about trying this -- shut down the UG for six months. Not just one month or two months. If the rest of RB is measurably worse afterwards, THEN consider keeping the UG.

The operative question should not be "why get rid of the UG?" The operative question should be -- "why KEEP the UG?"

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11. "RE: Why keep the UG?"
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oralio, i could not agree more. the UG is a pretext for behaving badly and people took up the challenge and succeeded all too well. it is the reverse of george crane's theory, "act the way you'd like to be and soon you'll be the way you act."

instead, in the UG you act the way you don't want to be and become that. and that isn't good. it wasn't just harmless fun taking place there, it was a challenge for people to sink down to the lowest level of discourse.

i prefer the challenge of saying what you want and need to say within the boundaries of the regular RB boards. whether we like it or not, we all exist in a community and that means we have some responsibilities to each other. the UG was a cancer in that community.

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16. "RE: Why keep the UG?"
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"george crane's theory, "act the way you'd like to be and soon you'll be the way you act.""

Thanks DM. I didn't know about crane, but I like that quote. A lot.

It not only reflects eastern beliefs, but it also dovetails with modern neurological theories about brain plasticity and the effect of actions and thoughts in remapping thought patterns and brain activity.

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6. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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LAST EDITED ON 03-Feb-10 AT 09:15 PM (PST)
 
>The UG is a sewer of cowardly mouth breathers.

So be a brave one! If you dare.............

Shit, I haven't looked there myself much for a long damn time, only posted maybe 5 times the last 3 years.

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7. "cowardly mouth breathers?"
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   "The UG is a sewer of cowardly mouth breathers."

Then it clearly serves its purpose by keeping them there. If they have no where else to go guess where they will go?

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9. "RE: cowardly mouth breathers?"
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That's what the alert button and mods are for.

If they don't have time to keep up with alerts, then find a mod who will.

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15. "alert button and mods"
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   I understand, but then some seemingly "normal" person will have to read the offending posts first. Any body who goes to the underground know what to expect.

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10. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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I don't even go there. There is too much far from reality, jealous, vindictive, crass, who gives a shit posts to waste my time there. If I want all that I can get it in the chat room while looking at some great action and ladies on web cams.
Grip
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12. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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Where is this underground of which you speak?

You don't know what you got until you use it!

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14. "Where is this underground ?"
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   .

Also on the "conferences" page 7/8 of the way down on the left side.

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13. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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   I like your idea. I get a kick out of that place but it needs a fresh start.

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17. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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This thread made me check out the UG for the first time in a couple of years. Hasn't changed much. Mostly lame sophomoric haystacks with a few humorous needles in hiding. It seems that the 'popular' people now are the same as when I first read the UG. How do they manage to retain their popularity year after year?

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18. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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   Go for it.

I visited the UG recently, and, it could use an active mod again.

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19. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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I vote ---- go for it and return it to what it was a couple years ago. It used to be a comic relief to read some of the threads there. Yes, they were childish and sometimes outright mean but mostly funny. And, allow pictures again. Who can forget the corvetteron picture that was a staple, the provider taking the dump and the holstered phone. Recently, it has just become a bash happyjack or product venue which is old before it's posted.

Freshen it up and see what happens. For the naysayers I say just don't go there as there are plenty of other forums to venture into.

Duck----in coming

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20. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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   The reason it's a sewer is many people who read the shit posted don't know it's all lies..I have had beefs with dudes who posted everything about me but the truth..I used to get in boxes from girls asking me if I am a racist because haters know I hate racists and put it in that mindless forum..The U.G is a cesspool of cowards, racists and chicken shits who need two layers of insulation from themselves..I started the abolish the U.G movement and it's just about dead..Good riddance!..So do you guys like my jewfro?

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22. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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>The U.G is a cesspool of cowards, racists and chicken
>shits who need two layers of insulation from themselves.

I always start from the assumptiont (yes, I know) that anyone who protests too much about it is also a participant. So, pretty much LOL at you teron.

>started the abolish the U.G movement

Yeah, YOU did, uhn huhn.

>and it's just about
>dead.

Ya know, maybe what they say about you has some truth after all? I didn't credit any of it until just now.............

>So do you guys like my jewfro?

Sets off the beak just dandy! Why do you ask?


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23. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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   First off the only time I ever posted there was to invite anyone of them to step forward and guess what, none did..What passes for humor is something a 10 year old would consider funny so I'm not surprised it's up your alley and if you don't think it's all but dead, your an even bigger idiot than you appear.


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21. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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I vote to keep the UG going. It serves the purpose intended.

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24. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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   please clarify.. you want to be the only mod for UG or you will be an additional mod?

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25. "RE: Your opinions on the Underground"
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LAST EDITED ON 05-Feb-10 AT 02:37 AM (PST)
 
I think it should go away. If people can't post links and pics like before, then what's the point of the place? Also, if the mods are going to allow these repeat threads about one person (happyjack) or any others, then I say get rid of it. Pretty annoying to read this stuff.

So either bring it back to the way it was or get rid of it. It's useless the way it is now.

One other observation: Interesting to read the posters here who say they haven't posted or visited much, when the fact is that they're there regularly reading and posting.

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