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ModernistSF
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06-Feb-10, 03:53 PM (PST)
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"Tipping Etiquette"
 
   Hi all - TIA for advice. What is customary in regard to tipping? Is it a percentage, or...?

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D36L78
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1. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   Now I very well may have completely missed anything discussing this but personally this is in no way comparable to eating out where the people working there may or may not be making very much money so tipping is a big deal. That being said my own personal approach would be to just use common sense. If you feel that you experience warrants a tip, big or small then do so. Personally I choose to tip and buy gifts but that is because my time spent with my favorite provider has never been anything but 100% satisfactory and she hasn't ever let things that could have caused a reschedule become a problem.

But that is just my take from own personal experience

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2. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   why would you tip someone who owns her own business?

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D36L78
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3. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   Why even bother offering my opinion when I can wait for someone to tell me I am wrong. If you believe that personal ownership somehow should determine the appropriatemess of tipping I don't know what planet your living on. In the real adult world tipping is only limited by personal choice. People give money or gifts to there mailman during the holidays even though they are well paid. I wouldn't but it doesn't somehow make their choice wrong.....

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4. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   This is one of those subjects, that everyone has a different opinion on. Take it for what it is, an opinion. Neither right nor wrong!
Usually I don't tip, however there have been several times where a session has gone on longer than I would've thought and I was happy to show my gratitude with a little something at the end. More than once, after a playtime, I've sent a Victoria's Secret email gift certificate to show my appreciation.
If you feel someone has gone above and beyond the call of duty....show your appreciation.
It's as simple as that.
Have fun

Fs

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22. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   >Why even bother offering my opinion when I can wait for someone to tell me I am wrong.

Let us know where we can send you tip. Do you take Paypal?

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5. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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A distinction needs to be made between a FS provider and a storefront MP. Typically tipping is not required at the former as the price of admission is steeper. It's up to the individual hobbyist as to whether or not they wish to do so. The MP is different in that the door price only buys you time. Extras are extra and the suggested pricing starts around $15-20 for CMT (assuming an hour session) to $100+ for FS.

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HobbyDreams HobbyDreams rating
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8. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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Not in any way required--if this is required, then it should be added to the advertised fee as it is not really a tip (which is really the way this has become in restaurants, last time I got poor service and left only 10% the waiter followed me into the parking lot to ask for a full 18%!). With FS if she goes over, is a good actress (eg laughs convincingly at my jokes, etc, lol), has good hygiene, and provides truly good service I will often tip. However, if she starts at $300 then an 18% or 20% tip seems excessive, though in moments of weakness I have given that much. Let's face it fellas, we get taken advantage of in the heat of the moment. Be sure to only take along what you want to spend. Of course, some will say that this is jaded.....but my 2 cents.

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ModernistSF
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07-Feb-10, 08:42 PM (PST)
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9. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   Thanks for the guidance, everyone. I'll probably wind up tipping with cash, assuming the experience is as fun as previous reviews would lead me to anticipate, but I like your idea re: a VS gift certificate, Funsekr.

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13. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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I guess is a hot subject, being new. I did not know know there could be such heated and pointed opinions on such a thing.

My .02 is: As all services, the price is established before the actual service is preformed. To provide adequate and acceptable service is expected and understood by both parties.
The level of service and how it is carried out is always the question of " meeting expectations". That is also the question with an evaluation of service.

If the expectations were met, and service was rendered, then compensation is justified at the agreed price. No more, no less.

There should be no expectations of more compensation to be given or asked for when there was an agreement. That is the essence of the deal made between the parties.

When service was provided above expectations or in some cases in recognition to Consistent performance. We and you always have a choice to acknowledge that in any way you feel appropriate.

Good Etiquette does not tolerate someone to ask for a tip Or expect one.

It is your choice to tip, regardless how you do it.

If I tip it is afterward or on my next visit, but it is an exception not the rule. I do not think a quality provider really cares, unless you set the precedent. Some guys play the tip card to try and entice a provider to do something more for them or to think they are getting special treatment. Personally I think that is foolish and lacks good taste.

but it is my .02

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10. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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>….personally this is in no way comparable to eating out where the people working there may or may not be making very much money so tipping is a big deal.

> why would you tip someone who owns her own business?

> If you believe that personal ownership somehow should determine the appropriateness of tipping I don't know what planet your living on.

> Keep telling yourself that your view of this is correct. Your entitled to have your own opinion but it is just an opinion which means it is based on your personal beliefs and doesn't have one iota of fact to back it up.

> A distinction needs to be made between a FS provider and a storefront MP.

Based on the comments of some of the previous posters, It appears that people are not familiar with past etiquette practices on tipping. Etiquette is a learned thing that is not fact based. A lot of old etiquette practices have been lost or ignored overtime, i.e., the proper way to walk with a lady on a sidewalk, proper way to give a wedding gift, a man never wearing a hat or cap indoors, and certainly not while seated at the dinner table in a public restaurant.

It may have been more of an East Coast thing, but if you were served in a restaurant by the owner, than tipping was not done. I remember as a child the “server” refused to take the tip - almost insulted - explaining that he was the owner.

So the people who claim that you shouldn’t tip and independent provider operating as a business owner, are no more wrong than people who claim you should remove your hat in a public restaurant.


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11. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   The awkward thing with tipping in this industry is you are leaving the donation up front. This means in order to tip you need to go back to the wallet at the conclusion of the session. For this reason, if someone was deserving a tip, I will add it to the donation the next time I see that person.

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SeinHomme
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12. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   If I'm going to tip, I never (even with an ATF) include the complete tip upfront.

If I'm new to the RA and have high expectations, based on my initial impression when the door is opened, I'll leave a portion of the tip with the donation and save the remainder for the end of the session - if all goes as good or better than expected.

If we've sessioned before and the session is as good or better than the previous experience, I'll tip at the end.


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kinkyfetishstud
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14. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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If satisfying experience tip. It terrible clockwatcher no tip and not return next time.

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HobbyDreams HobbyDreams rating
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18. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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I would also add that those who bring gifts should start to realize they are setting a precedent for themselves and should factor this into the price. In the hobby, I think we can all usually agree that YMMV (though I realize some guys think they get the very best every time or that any lady who would be with them even for money is a goddess lol). For those ladies who produce a list of gifts they would like to have you purchase, we can all see they are implying that a gift will go along way toward the high end of YMMV. Of course, they can fall back on the idea that services are as advertised (thus completing the scam), but the implication is there. Makes you think you will get special treatment for the gift. If this is true, it is a form of obvious upsell and should be reflected in her price, in neighborhood watch, and in reviews....my next 2 cents.

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19. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   IMHO (and it's no more than an opinion), I will in rare circumstances offer an additional fee at the end of the session, if I have been particularly impressed by a provider's service and attitude. As I use a money clip, it is comparatively easy, once dressed, to discreetly turn around and withdraw a $50 or $100 bill and then hand it to the lady along with a few words of extra thanks and praise.

I have also occasionally bought a VS gift card for a provider I am revisiting who made a particularly good impression. $50 seems right as it will generally buy a nice but not extravagant lingerie set. I have found that the personal touch of having gone to the trouble of getting a physical gift card is often appreciated.

Having said the above, I also agree with the view that when a fee is agreed upon, it implies that the lady will do her best to provide satisfaction within whatever service boundaries she sets. The idea of having to pay extra for better service is unacceptable, and if a provider were to ask for a tip up front, I would promptly cancel the session and leave.

Finally, I think that the most important tip one can offer a provider is to be polite, considerate, respectful and clean. I have no doubt that it makes the time spent with a client a much more positive experience form the provider's viewpoint, and the fee earned more enjoyable.

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20. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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did you know the word "tip" used in this context is not really a word, but an acronym. its stands for "To Insure Promptness" and back in the day, it was paid before a meal to insure the meal was delivered in a timely manner. Its true, google it,

now, I have never had a propvider ready early yet...

when i do, i will tip her LOL

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21. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   No tips for an individual that sets his/hercompensation.

In restaurants, you tip for the quality of the service since the server is paid minimum wage.

In Europe , the server is paid a living wage/salary so you can leave nothing or "trinken geld", German for money for a drink.

In Japan,I've had a taxi driver chase me to retun the change that I left for a tip.

TIPS are an American, perhaps also English, invention to reduce operating costs.

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23. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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If the service is great I'll tip 20%. If it was only OK I'll tip 10%.

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24. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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   My tip is seeing her twice a week instead of once a week and

handing her another $160. to $200. for an hour of her time.

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25. "RE: Tipping Etiquette"
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I think if you were to do a real poll, not a stuffed redbook poll, you would find that it is customary to not tip.

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