This is, in a way, a valid argument; same as it goes for doing (or not doing) incalls at your house. However, another consideration beside the issue of privacy might be safety and security. Do you really want to have "Guido, the killer pimp" pay you a visit at your place of work...?

>If nothing else, I feel like a provider who thinks enough of herself to do so probably is a bit more exclusive.

There are so many rookie mistakes implied in this one sentence, I do not know where to start... ...acutually, no, I misread: You can obviously "feel about this any way you want". An interesting ;line I read recently goes like this: "It's no what we don't know that hurts us; it's what we do know but that isn't so".

>Also, I am sympathetic to what a lot of women must experience, and if increasing their comfort on a first date means a better
>experience- I am all for it.

That's blather. If you are indeed sympathetic to what "a lot of women must experience" you can volunteer at the St James Infirmary.

Did offering your reference ( woman you met) lead to unexpected incident?

I prefer actually girls who take the time to find out who I am.

My choices are very conscious and well thought out, and I would hope that the girls selections are the same.

I've heard horror stories that are so despicable that I learned to really appreciate the screening process.

You don't want to hear them, but they range from violent clients to clients that are so shy they can barely get in the door.

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Also you shouldn't use your real name, only give hobby phone number, don't give work name, work number. Don't give them any info that can come back to bite in the butt. If outcall, get a hotel room. Never give home address or phone number. Don't give out any real info. Other than that, tell her whatever she wants to know.

A few years ago I asked two well-known 5-star girls that don't require references to provide references: One didn't return my call or email and the other said she would, then didn't.

So my personal experience is that it is not "fairly easy" as not all women are willing to give references. I decided not to ask for references from anyone in the future because my disappointment with these women precludes me from seeing them again and I don't want to lose anymore good providers.

.:. quality not quantity .:.

If a girl wants to do the reference thing, fine. There are enough idiots out there who are willing to oblige them.

And yes, any monger that goes the reference path is an idiot. There is absolutely nothing in it for the monger. So why do they do it? I hear the argument that the girl is more comfortable with a referenced client. I say BS. She still does not know the guy, or how he will behave, or whether there could be a personality conflict.

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For the gentlemen who don't give references - are you mostly seeing the lower cost provers (say under $200), or is the likelihood of a provider asking for references unrelated to her rates?

And speaking of references - does anyone do the "show me something a cop wouldn't" thing or is there no point?

Party On!!

For LA area, the providers I see are $250-$300.

I only see asian providers. Mostly Korean. Sometimes Japanese or Japanese/Korean.

Seems like most of the asian providers in the SF Bay Area advertising in the South Bay Asian Massage forum do not require references.

Seems like most of the providers asking $400-$500 and up ask for references. The ones that charge $300 or less may or may not require references. And if the provider is non-asian, higher probability references will be required when provider is asking for $200 and up.

I don't like the reference requirement because I think it is a hassle and I don't have anyone I can use as a reference. Most providers I see are asian, don't speak English very well, go on frequent vacations or leave after 3 months to a year. I would have to find someone that speaks English, will be around for awhile and is willing to be my reference. Besides, there are so many beautiful asian providers who give good to great service at reasonable rates and don't ask for references, why bother?

The way I see it, references are of limited value anyway because what's to prevent someone from acting like a jerk once he has a reference? Having a reference means he paid, was nice and had good hygiene at least once. I like the system AAMPs use. They are trusting. But if you screw up, you get put on a blacklist. No method is perfect.