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"sugarbaby (again)"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 16-Feb-10 AT 11:22 PM (PST)
 
...well I'm fairly new to the hobby (about 6 months and 6 providers, a few multiple times). Discussion here prompted me to look for some sugarbabies, I guess I like the idea of having someone "exclusively".

Started looking for sugarbabies on CL and ended up with mostly spam...

For a few months I tried the various sugardaddy sites, fishing-for-whatever, ashley madison, etc etc etc and came up empty.

Recently went back to CL (after reading a few of the older posts here) and now suddenly I've got more responses than I can handle... (about 8 responses in a week - a couple were obvious pros, the others seem to be non-pro). The photos look great, and I've actually met with two of them and they are HOT young co-eds, and from what I can tell they genuinely seem to be NON-pros, and independent just looking for a little extra cash and they are hot to trot and LOVE older men...I got blue balls just meeting with one talking about the arrangement...

I must admit I'm pretty excited about the prospect... the pro providers are fun, but as far as I can tell I am going to have some exclusive access to some primo babes...

I've done my homework and read the upsides and downsides (downsides primarily being the emotional bond that could develop etc etc).

I'm going to take the plunge... I don't think I can be talked out of it

One of the last providers I saw warned me about going the sugarbaby route... she may be right but right now it's just looking way too good to pass up...might be a good problem to have, but because of my budget I think I'm going to have to settle on just one :(

I know, I could be regretting this in a few months when she ups her price or decides to blackmail me. Still would like to hear some input... especially regarding keeping my head screwed on straight (which I've managed to do with the pro providers, but this will be more of a challenge).

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1. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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This is out of my price range so I don't have much opinion but I would like to know where you posted in CL? In the general dating site?

Just to explain, I would prefer to meet non-pro girls. I wouldn't mind coming with say $5/month for one hour a week. A girl can get 2-3 'daddies' like this and skip becoming a full pro. Is this common, or do they go either one sugar-daddy or full pro?

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6. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   >This is out of my price range so I don't have much opinion
>but I would like to know where you posted in CL? In the
>general dating site?
>

I posted in "Adult Gigs"...
the "casual relationship" and "men looking for women" has become spammers paradise...

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2. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   Current thread

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID10/2957.html

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3. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   The best ones are ones that are working and just need a little bit more cash to finance other things. I avoid women who solely rely on money from SD, because they are basically pro's. I try to maintain a rate of $1k/month or less, but YMMV.

Once you find a true non-pro, it should definitely feel like you have a gf. She should be generous with her time, not counting all the hours that she spends with you. Plenty of dates and talking on the phone and long kisses. Sex should be RBGFE minimum like how you fuck a gf.

But, here's the downfall. It's hard not to get emotionally attached to someone who is willingly giving you so much pleasure. Also... you are tainted. Because after experiencing a non-pro, you would feel ripped off seeing a pro again and paying pro rates.

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17-Feb-10, 11:14 AM (PST)
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4. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   My only concern is your repeated use of the word exclusive. I don't think it is realistic to believe that you will be the only one she sleeps with. Young hotties have multiple opportunities and temptations, and the fact that she is willing to consider "an arrangement" suggests that she isn't shy or prudish. If you can get your head around the limited exclusivity that is probably the real world you should be fine. There is nothing wrong with emotional attachments as long as they are connected to reality. Some of my best friends are providers, although I do draw the line at politicians, for example.

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17-Feb-10, 03:55 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   >My only concern is your repeated use of the word exclusive.

I would think you are referring to the OP's use of the word because Viphawaii (who your response is attached to) said no such thing. That said, I agree with you. Quite obviously the woman you deal with has no (or only few) hangups about sex and enjoys doing it outside of a love-relationship. It is likely that you (or I) are not the "only ones" and I never make that assumption. Nor do I promise or allude to exclusivity on my side. Unless, of course, that is part of the negotiated arrangement. I guess, where I differentiate between a "pro" and a "non-pro" I have an arrangement with is that a "pro" relies on this for her basic income and will see anyone anytime. A "non-pro" (like the OP mentioned as well) is likely someone who has a regular job or goes to school and has her basics covered but seeks to supplement.

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17-Feb-10, 08:17 PM (PST)
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7. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   >>My only concern is your repeated use of the word exclusive.
>
>I would think you are referring to the OP's use of the word
>because Viphawaii (who your response is attached to) said no
>such thing. That said, I agree with you. Quite obviously
>the woman you deal with has no (or only few) hangups about
>sex and enjoys doing it outside of a love-relationship. It
>is likely that you (or I) are not the "only ones" and I
>never make that assumption. Nor do I promise or allude to
>exclusivity on my side. Unless, of course, that is part of
>the negotiated arrangement. I guess, where I differentiate
>between a "pro" and a "non-pro" I have an arrangement with
>is that a "pro" relies on this for her basic income and will
>see anyone anytime. A "non-pro" (like the OP mentioned as
>well) is likely someone who has a regular job or goes to
>school and has her basics covered but seeks to supplement.


Yup... the one I'm interested in has her basics covered and is seeking to supplement, and appears to just enjoy the fun... she is truly "non-pro", and the posts above regarding no guarantee of "exclusivity" are spot-on. But so far so good if I can keep my emotions in check...

The "problem" is that I have at least one and possibly two more candidates waiting in line! Unfortunately I can only afford to hang on to one...

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9. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   "I know, I could be regretting this in a few months when she ups her price or decides to blackmail me. Still would like to hear some input.."

For the most part, sweet young coeds who are just trying to make ends meet in order to stay in school don't make ever-escalating demands for more money and the idea of blackmail won't jump in their heads either, unless they start thinking about you as their boyfriend/fiance. You might find yourself spending more money on lingerie, sex toys, entertainment, clothes, etc., though, but that's really all part of the fun, IMO.

"I've done my homework and read the upsides and downsides (downsides primarily being the emotional bond that could develop etc etc).

I'm going to take the plunge... I don't think I can be talked out of it"

Good for you! There's nothing like having a sweet young thing available for regular meet-ups, travel and general fun. Just remember to establish clearly the terms, conditions and duration of your financial support and set up regular points of evaluation where you can each assess whether or not things are working out. This is especially true at the outset, where a one month trial/probationary period makes a lot of sense.

Do not (repeat: DO NOT) pay her a full month's allowance at the beginning of your arrangement, but instead, provide her with a quarter of the total sum on a weekly basis for the first month or so. That way, if things don't shape up the way that you're expecting you won't be left with just your dick in hand wondering what went wrong and she won't be as tempted to back out of the deal after deciding that she just can't bring herself to have sex for money (or her mysteriously appearing boyfriend tells her to stop or...).

One of the other great things about arrangements like this is that you can be straight up with her about your desire to occasionally get a little something strange on the side without having to lie about the whole thing as you would have to in almost any other type of more traditional relationship. Also, the fact that the relationship is not designed to last for ever (or, at least, not in the same form that it begins as) makes the whole emotional attachment thing easier to deal with because an end date is built into it from the get-go.

I'd have two (or three, or even four!) sugar babies on the line more often if I could afford it. But finding a sugarbaby that also likes other girls is a great alternative because, that way, you can both enjoy something on the side together without you having to make the same kind of ongoing financial commitment to more than one girl at a time. Incidentally, it's also really fun to be able to shop together on RB for a bi-sexual rent girl that you can both enjoy instead of sneaking around and having to pretend.

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10. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   What's a sugar baby

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19-Feb-10, 11:54 PM (PST)
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11. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   For those of us considering trying the same thing how much money have you discussed with these women and how often will you get together with them?

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20-Feb-10, 08:24 AM (PST)
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12. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   ... i've settled on one SB (had to reject another hottie), and we negotiated... this was an uncomfortable (but necessary discussion) for both of us, but it appears we've settled on $1k/month. i had another "offer" for $$$$$$/mo but she was not as hot. initially my current sb proposed limiting our time together to about 5 hours/mo but after our first get-together she realized how much she enjoyed it, and at least for now it seems we'll be getting together about once a week with no clock-watching...

i really don't mean this to be a gloat, but i had been seeing 5-star rbgfe providers, and the first session with my sb was better than what i've experienced with the pros (the 5-star rb providers are excellent, so not a slam against them)... i don't want to go into the details of the session. let me just say the arrangement is set up so that i'm the boyfriend, she's the girlfriend, and i'm helping her out with tuition...

i can see a couple of real challenges...(1) that neither one of us falls into a deep emotional bond; (2) she is local so we really have to be discreet... [whereas with providers I traveled out of the area].

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14. "RE%253A sugarbaby %2528again%2529"
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   LAST EDITED ON 20-Feb-10 AT 01:56 PM (PST)
 
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15. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   >i really don't mean this to be a gloat,...

Yes. But that is how I (we) will take it. I am now sooo jealous I could bite myself. Curse you and your damn luck! You get to rob the cradle and we are stuck with five-star escorts. Dang!

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16. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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Adult Gigs is indeed a very good place to find a SB or even a
non-pro. Almost no spamming. It looks to me that all this 'web-site
signing you up women' have not discovered it yet. I have currently
an 'arrangement', but did insist that it is not exclusive. Not exclusive because I don't believe that the woman should solely rely on me for the extra income. This way the emotions become less involved and it is easier to break it up. Just my opinion and preference.

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20-Feb-10, 06:40 PM (PST)
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17. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   I have met five different women through the adult gigs section. All have been non pros who had day jobs and were looking to make some extra money. I had nice times with each of them and they were all cute or very attractive. But, it did take some time and multiple conversations to finally meet up with them. It is good to be cautious; you know that it takes some time to find the right person. I also think you need to know that just because you have one nice visit doesn’t mean that it will be ongoing. One of the women who I really have fun with moved to another state and another decided to get back together with her boy friend. So, it can be hit or miss. But, I have had good luck on CL. And, I have never come across someone who stalked me three months later.

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18. "RE: sugarbaby (again)"
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   Brian, I sent you a private email. If you can please reply back, that would be great. Just curious...

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