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playguy69
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28-Feb-10, 09:58 AM (PST)
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"Lowered donations"
 
   I've noticed that a couple of girls I've seen in the past have lowered their rates. (Guess the economy sucks all over) Would you still give her the same that you've given in the past or go with her new rate? (I keep it the same but I always tip as well- guess I'm a pushover)

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Hunterwolf click here to view user rating
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28-Feb-10, 12:30 PM (PST)
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1. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   If she is my ATF, I will give her the same old rate even if she lowers it on her ad. Like you said I do tip my ATF as well.

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2. "RE: Lowered donations"
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I would give her the higher rate if she provided unrushed sessions and treated you better than unknown clients either in service, attitude or both. That inho is a 2 way street.

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3. "RE: Lowered donations"
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I've never ecountered this yet, but if I did, I would pay the lower rate. Pretty sure my regulars would be cool with that.

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4. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-Feb-10 AT 01:28 PM (PST)
 
No, I wouldn't.

I was seing a particular girl every couple of weeks for 250hr. As I'm leaving and paying she didn't mention the fact that she was running a "special" for 200 (probably thought I don't read the Personals and wouldn't notice lol). Only when I brought it up as I was shelling out the money, she said "Oh yeah, the special, I forgot, it's only 200".

Clearly she didn't have any intention of mentioning the lower/special rate and since I saw her somewhat frequently, thought for certain she would mention it first....

I didn't bore myself going back. Regulars shouldn't pay "more" than newbies unless the particular "special" had reduced services/time/whatever. Thought it was very low-end.

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28-Feb-10, 02:17 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   >>Clearly she didn't have any intention of mentioning the lower/special rate and since I saw her somewhat frequently, thought for certain she would mention it first.<<

I agree with you, but I doubt that she would mention it to some other clients first. The RA would not offer a special unless her business is hurting. Therefore, she is offering it reluctantly, and would rather not do it.

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playguy69
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28-Feb-10, 02:41 PM (PST)
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7. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   I figure that most girls will "grandfather" you at their original rate if it goes up so I should do the same if it goes down- presumably only temporarily. I have this delema this week- I'll probably give her the usual cuz I kinda like her (I know, I'm a sap)

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28-Feb-10, 02:13 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   >I keep it the same but I always tip as well- guess I'm a pushover

I like your frankness! When there is a special rate advertised, I ask for it. But I pay the regular price and use the difference as a tip.

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eon_sl
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28-Feb-10, 04:19 PM (PST)
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8. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-Feb-10 AT 04:21 PM (PST)
 
I pay for the lower rate and give extra for tip. But how about if the provider raise her rate? should i ask her if she will charge me with the older (lower) rate or just give her the new donation rate?

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28-Feb-10, 06:35 PM (PST)
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9. "RE: Lowered donations"
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providers often "Grandfather in" older lower rates on the way up.. So yes they would ...

As far as whether to pay a provider a lower rate ... I have been offered great lower rates from gals... and really need to go see them .. however.. they are such great gals.. I'll go and pay the higher rate .. when I go.. as they have always treated me well

dong

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10. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   If she lowers her rate, you pay the lower rate.
If she increases her rate, you pay that higher rate.

Some of you guys who want to pay old rates are just plain stupid or don't understand that it's not up to you to decide HER rate. She lowers/increases her rate for her reasons, not yours. It's her business...don't directly/indirectly suggest that she is doing anything wrong!

So whenever you see lower rates, don't automatically assume that she is struggling or needs money or anything negative about her. Just respect whatever that is and enjoy yourself.

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11. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   Pay what the service is worth to you. If you feel the regular rate is worth it, tell her the amount over the special is a tip or because "she is special". She will probably give better service next time.

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12-Mar-10, 05:12 PM (PST)
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12. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   My one ATF has lowered her rates due to other gals doing it also. Yeah, it looks tough all over out there. Since she was a sweetheart from that first time, I think I'll give her the same. Just getting some cash together for her to visit soon.

wanker

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13. "RE: Lowered donations"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Mar-10 AT 06:59 PM (PST)
 
>Would you still give her the same that you've given in the past or go with her new rate?

That is a really good question because it involves a lot more than what meets the eye.

If she has lowered her donation, it is most probably, as a response to the market, and the state of the economy. However, this may also mean that I may be in a similar state of financial distress because only few people have remained impermeable to the prevailing fallen economy and its consequences for most of us in the labor sector. Chances are, I might have also taken a hit either directly in my paycheck (due to a choice between forced paycut or a pink slip), or fewer hours of work (as a result of the company downsizing or reorganizing).

Now, regardless of how good is her service to me, under that scenario, I will be unable to afford the same donation. Should I dare to continue seeing her at the same rate, I would be forced to cut the frequency of visits; simple math, there is not sufficient budget. If proceed to give her the new lowered donation, I might still be able to see her as frequently as before, but she will get less money, which of course might seem unfair. In either one of these cases, she gets less amount, but she works more or less.

I would think that if she likes to spend time with the hobbyist, as a person, then it might be less of a problem the lowered donation. The only positive could be that she does not have to deal with a new person and the associated risks and stress that comes with that. On the other hand, this remains a business for her though, and she could interpret the hobbyist as taking advantage of her, even if the truth is, he just does not have the same funds anymore.

Having said that, however, I would think that if the hobbyist happens to be in a more wealthy position, and he is able to afford the previous donation rates without compromising any other need, then it may be a moral choice, albeit a poor logic one, to give her that higher donation, or the lowered one and then a tip, but as I said, it would be a personal choice.


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14. "RE: Lowered donations"
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They're a commodity. Gasoline goes up to $4.50, you may drive a little less, but you pay. Gas drops back to $3, and what to you do...try and pay the the former, higher price?

"Tell your sister to come down quick..."

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Mrgetsome24
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12-Mar-10, 09:53 PM (PST)
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16. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   In response to catlover who hit it right on the head.This is a business and nothing more guys. These girls would never see you at all if not for the money. Never.lol. Don't fool yourself. You should try to respect the business end of it and still be a gentleman.

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rastaofari
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18-Mar-10, 06:35 PM (PST)
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17. "RE: Lowered donations"
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>They're a commodity. Gasoline goes up to $4.50, you may
>drive a little less, but you pay. Gas drops back to $3, and
>what to you do...try and pay the the former, higher price?

Exactly!
I wonder what those of you who are willing to pay more get out of it.

Does the same logic apply if you see a brand new provider who asks for 200/hr out of the gate, then realizes she does not want to be 5star GFE and so will not charge the rates that go with that level of service?
What if you see a provider as a non-pro from CL or elsewhere (as woman in need), pay a low rate, then see her RB rate is 25% higher?

Do I really have to ask you two more times?

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18. "RE: Lowered donations"
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   Its a commodoity which goes down in value over time. So if a drop occurs it could be also be the novelty has worn off.

A provider once confided its not easy to provide the same level of service day in day out, it's very tiring work.

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19. "karma"
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I would give her the same rate if she was previously discounting me.

That's the covenant we should form with ATFs -- if they gave us discounted rates when rates were higher, we owe it to her to honor the same rate when hard times drive her rate lower.

It's karmic -- she gave us a break when she didn't have to, so we should return the favor, within reason.


Be the change
you wish to see

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