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explorer
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"how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not computer)"
 
   i am moving to a new office. they told us not to watch porn on the internet, and that they track where we go on line.
i dont watch porn at work but i will go to the RB and other boards. is there a way to hide my track so that they dont see where i go on line. and i dont mean on my laptop... nobody will touch my laptop...my question is how to make sure that the server/gateway doesnt see where i go on line
thank you for your much needed help

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1. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   If you our connected to server/gateway..HR's will be able to check
where you go online. Not worth the risk of losing your job. This
site would be considered pornographic by most definition's.

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3. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   thanks. what about my yahoo email....can they see under what name i log in or only that i checked my yahoo email?

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2. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   Best bet is not to do it at all. Or would you rather join the millions of unemployed out there?
Seriously, companies that are large enough or serious enough will track your every move and have the legal right to do so when you are using the internet in the workplace. why risk it?

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4. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   If you use your companies equipment, they will know where you have been. If you mess with the settings, they will know that too. The only solution I can think of is to "dial up" with your own laptop. They will know the phone line is being used, but will not know why.

Of course, then someone will walk by your desk and see the typical rb screen and know anyway.

As others have said, don't go online at work.

tav


ps: how about a 3g 3enabled phone at lunch? just don't call from the same phone!

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6. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   thanks. i like the dial up solution...i forgot about this old v90 modem. are there free accounts for that? how have dsl but not dial up.

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5. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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If you happen to have a desktop PC at home, and your notebook, I will recommend the following alternative:

- configure your home PC for remote use
- change your password to something really strong with at least 10-12 characters long
- configure your home PC with no-IP software, dynDNS, or similar, so that you can "track" your dynamic IP address
- use Remote Desktop Connection to log, remotely, from anywhere there is Internet connection, to your home PC. Turn off your home PC monitor, albeit nobody will "see" what you see. It will just state that your computer is been used remotely.

This way, the office gateway will only log that you have remotely connected to port 3389, but that is all. This may or may not get you in trouble when and IF they ask you why do you need to connect to home? (i.e. checking emails, or family pictures during breaks?)

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9. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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You also can use something like the Tor Browser Bundle or OperaTor (Google them for info) on a thumb drive for browsing. Very very slow but reliably private if you use them properly. But again, if they're worried about your browsing habits they will want to know why you're connecting to the Tor network. Better just to do it from a smart phone, or leave it for home.

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7. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   use proxy hide. hidemyass.com

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14. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   >use proxy hide. hidemyass.com

Doesn't really work if the packets are analyzed. Just protects you from the other end. E.G. Feds asking for the logs from the websites themselves.

Still doesn't protect you from a corporate firewall/proxy that is properly set-up.

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8. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   I manage our networks. I pretty much know where and everywhere my employees are going. I even know the passwords they entered in.
Even if they use their own laptops. If they are using the company gateway, it is tracked.

Trust me, not worth losing your job.

BTW, I found it funny some of the lady employees posting real casual encounter ads on CL.

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11. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   > I found it funny some of the lady employees posting real casual encounter ads on CL.

Could you forward those ads to my inbox along with recent pix? Thanks.

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13. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   >> I found it funny some of the lady employees posting real casual encounter ads on CL.
>
>Could you forward those ads to my inbox along with recent
>pix? Thanks.

It has been a while, haven't checked on them lately.
Some of them are flat out lipstick lesbos that posted casuals for other lesbos. I found it very entertaining. The other ones (straight) have gotten married. You don't want to know what the guys were surfing.

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10. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   ok, so i am giving up the RB the CL, and all the good stuff BUT...can i use my yahoo email without them knowing under what fake name i logged into? what if i chat with the yahoo mail?

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12. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   Depends on how their network is set-up.

They can sniff the packet and view the port activity. If the ports to Yahoo Chat originates from your computer, they will know it is you.

I"m pretty draconian. I even installed keyboard loggers on our machines so I know what they're typing out.

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15. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   3 years ago I walked out an office knowing they read my yahoo mails, and worst, discussed my mails behind my back. And so you know, this is a professional line of work.
I learned to check my mails with my phone and abandon the use of company internet entirely, leaving them absolutely no trace at all. I treat my workplace's computer as enemy's properties.
That would be better for my future reviews, no lame excuses for discharge, and worry free about my private life, period.

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16. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   thank you all. you convinced me no to use my computer at work.
i guess that this is it. i will use my BlackBerry to check my email but i dont think that i will be able to use it for CL or RB... :(

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17. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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As an IT professional, currently working for a large Financial institution in SF.

If the company supplied the computer, don't think about it. They will find out.

If it's your own PC then there is some additional work involved. But they can track where you went. As far as the anonymous proxies and thumb drives etc. We just block access to those sites as they come up. So your not getting out that way.

Now the reality is: Maybe we'll catch you maybe we won't. The larger the company, the more garbage we have to sort through. At the same time though, the more automation we employ and the more sophisticated the tools are.

If Management is looking for an excuse to get rid of you, guess where they come. Then we focus all of our tools and time on finding that one pic on your computer that will get you fired.

The rest just depends on HR and corporate policy. Now any kiddie porn and all the alarm bells go off and out the door you go.

Some basic stuff to minimize your exposure: Use Firefox and crank up the security settings. don't let it store anything. Set it to delete your cache and history when you exit. don't save any passwords. don't bookmark anything.

We may only run a scan once a week at night. So if you keep everything cleaned off, the scan probably won't catch it. If you leave it on there, we'll find it.

As far as the gateway stuff, the logs are huge and we only keep them for a short while. Again, if Management wants to get rid of you, we'll keep every log of everything you did for however long it takes. As far as the whole company, we just block stuff.

Now if you go downloading stuff to get around our security policy, guess what? Automatic dismissal.

Best thing, get a phone with a full browser and use it. and don't forget to clear the history and cache before you get home.


Fly with me.

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18. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   Yeah, I just use my iphone with and use the company's guest wifi connection to cruise RB or anything I need during the day.

I don't think they can track that can they?

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22. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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If it's your personal phone, they won't know who's phone it is. They'll just know an iPhone was using their WiFi to do something.

If it is just a guest WiFi to get on the internet and not connect to the company's internal network, they probably aren't tracking what happens there.

Fly with me.

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19. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   The IT guys are right on the money. One item they missed from your question about webmail, though. If you can configure your mail to always use HTTPS instead of HTTP (I know gmail has this, not sure about the others), they won't be able to read the contents of your email. They will know you were checking emails but won't know what it said.

They could install spyware on your computer to see what you're doing, but they wouldn't do that unless they wanted an excuse to fire you. And since they can fire you without an excuse in most jobs, they wouldn't bother.

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20. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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If you're trying to bypass a company directive and risk losing your job just to read posts on this site, maybe the gateway isn't your biggest problem.

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21. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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Buy an IronKey USB flash drive which comes with a copy of
Firefox that runs from the drive and uses a TOR network
to hide its tracks. But this won't stop them from recording
everything you do on your PC. IT admins can connect remotely
to your system and watch everything you do.

Better not to use work PCs for anything risky at all. Instead use
your own personal ultraportable or netbook and use Verizon or ATT's
broadband wireless service or free wifi if available in your area.

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23. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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User your own laptop and your Blackberry with unlimited data plan on "tether" mode to your laptop. This provides larger (notebook-sized) images and a keyboard interface, so you can see the pores of the woman to whom you wish to show you're a man.

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24. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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   There are various things that would probably work...but might well still cause suspician.

Why not just get a Verizon card for your laptop (it'ds $60 a month for virtually unlimited use) and just use that at work?

I got one. Don't have to hide things at work (I own the [small] company), but it works great. Virtually everywhere. Sweet.

_____________

FriscoJack

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25. "RE: how to browse without leave trace on the gateway (not compute"
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Let me put it like this guys, ANYTIME you access the internet through your companies servers, the company CAN EASILY find out. It doesn't matter if you use a dial up modem, your own computer, your own phone, WiFi or any other method.
Sure some methods are a bit harder to identify the user but it's NOT that difficult for them "if" they wanted to do it.

Don't do "anything" you wouldn't want the company to find out about is the safest way to look at it.

Some of the internet servers are configured to log "everything", and some companies (mostly banks) even use keyloggers.

30 yrs in the IT business

Have fun, Be safe

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