I should think we could agree that a looks rating of 9/10 should be reserved for someone who you might find on the pages of Playboy. Does anyone disagree that the women on Playboy would rate 9s or 10s?

I have to say most of the women rated on this board at 9 or 10 could not get within a thousand miles of the pages of playboy.

Why are the ratings so inflated? Is it because we want to see the lady again and want her to be thankful we gave her a great rating?

Thoughts?

I bring this up because I was researching a particular lady who was rated 8, 9, and 10. What I found out was that she was using very old pics and her newer pics were obviously heavily photoshopped. I discouvered this because doing a google search turned up a collection of old pics and actual current pics. In the old pics whe is young and slender while in the actual current pics the must have added 30lbs to her butt. All the while guys who were actually seeing her were rating her 8-10. A lady who is 30lbs heavy in the butt is a 8, 9, 10?

Thoughts?

The guys are afraid of some sort of retaliation from the girls because of their own ego's, low self esteem, low self worth etc. To compare them with Playboy models is ridiculous. Most of them (95%) are not.

Edit to add: If the guys did have a decent amount of self esteen, self worth etc, they would never cheat on their GF's, wives, SO's. I am single. I have no GF-Wife-SO

I paid for that inflated rating. I saw a lady who was regularly rate 9 and 10 in looks. After I saw her, I could not believe people would give her those scores. Lesson learned. I am now more careful.

First, many guys think with their dicks. I know my dick will hand out a 10 to just about any girl that will let it between her legs.

Second, many guys want to curry favor with a provider by inflating the ratings. Or to avoid drama if they plan to repeat.

culo is a culo

I think 8.5 is the highest 'looks' rating I've given (twice). And they were smokin' hot.

If I'm not mistaken the descriptions have been updated as an allowance for universally high ratings. A workaround that red might implement to put a little more integrity in the number ratings while still appeasing the girls complaints about low ratings would be increased granularity on the high end, say to .2 between 8-10 (8, 8.2,8.4, 8.6...). Thus a girl could receive a lot of "8" ratings and be happy about it and the men who are discriminating could apply a little analysis to determine what is actually being said with that number. Just an idea, maybe too complicated.

.:. quality not quantity .:.

I also think it's subjective. I'm a sucker for cute, PYT.
I'm pretty new at this, so far haven't seen gorgeous, perfect 10 Playboy or SI swimsuit issue type provider. Or maybe it's just out of my price range.

If your a single 35 year old male in decent shape then a 35 year

old attractive women may seem like a 6 or 7 to your eyes.

If your a 60 year old male same women may seem like a 9 too him.

Looks our only one part of the equation. Service is just as important

if not more so.

We see the girls on this site with pro pics with softening lenses or camera settings. When we see them in person they might not quite stack up to their pics......just as a playboy model wouldn't.

Girls with flawless skin and perfect features simply don't exist. So is it fair to compare these ladies with something unrealistic? I don't think so.

Just thinking off the top of my head, the 5 most beautiful women I have ever seen were all providers. I'll rate them a 10 if I want to!

You said: "A lady who is 30lbs heavy in the butt is a 8, 9, 10?"

Keep in mind, these ratings are for face only. There is a separate rating for body.

I try to be accurate in my assessment, knowing full well if I had a great time I want to put higher ratings than if I had a mediocre time. And yes, if I'm putting a lower rating than she typically had, I do feel somewhat bad about it, but I try to put a note in about it.

A 7 rating should be really good, but most will see it as a negative. But all this is a widespread problem, not just rating providers on RedBook.

Try to be accurate according to the hints in the ratings. Did she really look like a super model? Say Kim Kardashian. Did she really fulfill all your fantasies or did you just have a hell of a good time?

Was that body a perfect 10? The hard part for me is I have seen a near perfect 10 up close. If you really wanted to you could still find an imperfection. So if I rated everyone else according to her, they would all be 7's or below, except maybe in service and attitude. That I think would also be unfair.

So do what I do, rely more on the descriptions than the numbers.

Fly with me.

The more we get to know someone, if good feelings are mutual, the better looking she becomes over time - the "inner beauty" shines through and can make an ordinary woman look prettier. Not everyone is genetically blessed to be beautiful, but what we all have control over is our attitude.

That's my 2 cent's worth, valued somewhat lower due to inflation.

Regards,
Feelgood

No sense of humor? Then it's just not funny.

I think it is important to distinguish between the "general population scale" versus the "personal preference scale". Of course there are generalities to men's perception of beauty or else why would the women featured in Playboy be mostly universally considered extremely attractive?

But consider that those of us on RB are rational beings and decision makers (oxymoron maybe? LOL). We look at the pictures, read reviews, etc. and decide to book a session or not. If the photos are real then you will base your booking decision on your "personal preference scale" when considering her looks. Afterwards you will likely review her accordingly unless the pics are old, inaccurate, fake, or as other have insightfully pointed out if service was bad that artificially diminishes the looks rating. Here's the key: your rating will likely be high because you are a rational decision maker and you are unlikely to choose someone you wouldn't personally consider attractive in the first place, be it a preference for slim, curvy, BBW, young, mature, ethnicity, etc.

Some reviewers will try to normalize for the "general population scale" but I think that is a flawed exercise given the argument that if the photos are accurate then others who are considering seeing her also share your "personal preference scale" for whatever her looks may be and will gain the best insight from your unadjusted review.

Pics of providers whose appearance ratings are inflated. Sample of pics you consider to be 8's, 9's and 10's.

Would be interesting to see what you consider to be beautiful.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has different tastes and preferences.

Some guys like bubble butts (J Lo butt). I like nice flat asian butt or like those you see on Victoria Secret models. I would give a higher rating for a woman with a nice flat asian butt than one with a bubble butt.

Some guys like their women with a little meat. I like them slim (but not Twiggy skinny). Like Ayaka or DDG Jen.

I like nice long straight hair. Others may like hair to be short and/or curly.

There are even guys who like BBW/curvy/fat women and think they are beautiful (I am definitely NOT one of them).

So one man's 7 is another man's 9 and visa-versa.

It would be interesting if RB had a rate-me forum and see how everyone scores each pic and graph the scores so we can see the score distribution and also be able to add comments so people could explain their score if they want. Also would be nice if you can search scores from a specific RB handle. Would be interesting to see preferences, what he considers beautiful and ugly.

The Honeymoon Effect - It's important to review while the details are fresh in your mind, but that also skews in the provider's favor. Under ideal conditions, the reviewer would compose the review as a Word file right after the session but then take a few days to put it into perspective before actually submitting it. What seemed like a great session with a gorgeous supermodel on Friday night might seem just just another roll in the hay by Sunday afternoon. And while liquor may not have been part of the equation, there is still a lot of wisdom in the words, "I never went to bed with an ugly woman, but I sure woke up with a few!"

Richter Scale versus SAT Scale versus Inner Beauty Scale - Should the reviewer assume that a 10 is something so rare that not even most supermodels would achieve that rating -- something as rare as a 10.0 earthquake or an IQ of 200? Is it more like the SAT exam where you get a lot of attention for being in the 90% percentile or better? Or does she receive extra points, not for her looks, but because she had a great personality or a charming smile?

This is a discussion we've had many times before, and it's unrealistic to expect things will ever change. As always, read the reviews with your mind instead of your heart. If one guy gives her a 10, be encouraged but skeptical. If everyone gives her tens, then either she's all that or her pimp is keeping quite busy.