Concur about the usenet board, I used that prior to RB and LPIN. One of the earliest posters there who was contributing a lot of info still appears here on occasion. Off the top of my head I can't remember how to spell his handle, but he and many others are so appreciated.

I think I can remember it being used in conversation in the mid-90's.

It's been used on all kinds of boards from L.A. to Colorado to Florida to San Francisco as far back as my weak little memory allows.

It is certainly NOT an acronym coined on Redbook if memory serves me.

tra

That was a great post..

In addition, the term GFE is a lame catch phrase used by clients to pressure providers into more and more risky uncovered services that they feel they must provide to survive in this business.

There was a time that having a girlfriend for hire was something other than who has the longest string of acronyms in their reviews.

I think this is a reflection on our society as a whole; not to mention how the porn industry has replaced love and intimacy with a Circus Maximus of mechanical stunts.

Mutual respect and trust between a provider and client seems to have gone out the window along with the minimal decency of sitting down at the restaurant table only after she is seated.

If I had the choice of lying naked and touching lips in the arms of a beautiful woman or getting "rimmed" (another dumb acronym) my choice would never be the latter.. (nor would it be my choice on a cold day in hell anyway)But "To Each His Own" I Suppose

Nohassles

> ...most view GFE only as the list of sex services...

Yep, and that's what works for us. How the hell is that a problem??

Ads are for services, and paying customers should have some clarity as to what services are being provided.

GFE (or at least RBGFE) does that to our benefit, thanks to the 'stupidly convenient naming' that you cannot seem to abide.

The truth is, I live in Oakland, i'll be more likely to get killed by thug hommy and his boys than from getting a blow job.

I guess that would be true if you do something to make yourself a target.

Never had a problem with the brothers unless I was looking for one.

Nohassles

If you can provide a link or reference to a single documented case of HIV being trasnmitted via oral sex, the medical community would be interested.

You are off base as usual, as well as missing the point.

This is a MONGER board. It was developed so that mongers can exchange information about providers. As such a discussion of services is appropriate. And terms such as GFE, RBGFE (what the fuck is that anyway?), PSE, ROB, dead fish experience, etc are all perfectly acceptable in this venue.

They are designed as a shorthand for the benefit of mongers. Yes the term is a bit fuzzy, but that does not mitigate its usefulness. I certainly know when I got GFE, or not.

Finally. this was not a discussion of the definition, it was a discussion of where the term originated.

WAFI

culo is a culo

There's a reason why the Wikipedia entry for "GFE" almost totally concurrs with the original meaning of the word to refer to an attitude and not to a list of specific acts, regardless as to who first came up with the term.

I still have no idea why you RBers decided to make it so hard on yourselves and keep trying to define GFE in your own special kind of way. Kinda funny, actually, to watch you guys keep fretting about it for all these years. Even in dirt poor parts of Mexico things are totally obvious. But in super wealthy San Francisco, no! "She said GFE, but she didn't do it!! The horror!!"

Again, it's your own fault for trying to come up with a catch-all phrase which used an already existing acronym for something that meant something else. You just weren't very creative.

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We're all set: RBGFE

We'd try to make it simpler for you, but one letter doesn't qualify as an acronym.

Really? And I'm the one who started this thread? Lol.

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