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FriscoJack

SLAA = Sex and Love Addicts Annonymous

Yeah.. I'm addicted.

In the NA traditions based on AA, the leaders are but trusted servants they do not govern. Each group is to be autonomous, except in matters affecting other NA groups or NA as a whole.

"Each group has but one primary purpose - to carry the message to the addict who still suffers."

> I can probably also
>give props for those people coming forward and making an
>effort on their part. Unless of course, some of those people
>are forced thru a court order or something like that.

It's often called, "a nudge from the judge." How one gets there is not as important as what one does there. I can't speak to the numbers of AA, but NA has helped thousands upon thousands of people to live a life free of drugs. However, percentage wise I believe the numbers are not that high, yet of all the programs out there it has proven to be the most successful, hence why the courts order people to attend these programs. If people were not court ordered, the percentage might be much higher, as the addict has to want recovery.

I don't drink, do drugs or engage in any other addictive behaviors, and therefore have never been to, or taken the time to learn much about, 12 step programs. The following remark...

>Going to a “sex addict” meeting to get laid makes one a predator.
>Consider the emotional distress a woman must feel to make her seek
>these types of meetings hoping to get help, and then be confronted
>by a sleaze ball who will lie and further abuse her for his own
>selfish agenda.

...describes a perspective that never even occurred to me. I consider myself to be just about the least predatory person I know. I fully understand that self-perception is entirely subjective, I mean, I'm sure there are serial killers out there who consider themselves non-predatory.

The scenario *I* imagined was showing up at one of these meetings to see if there were any women there, who were basically there for the same reason. The last thing I would do is prey on some emotionally distressed woman who has been driven to one of these meetings by the chaos of her life.

Regarding the myth of sex addiction, I'm sure it's an important distinction, especially for those who help people with these obsessions, compulsions, or psychoses. But what's wrong with calling it an addiction, if the associated treatment is successful?

Finally, while hobbying is great, and I intend to continue doing it, the cost prevents me from doing it with sufficient frequency to satisfy my obsessive-compulsive psychosis. So where does a non-predatory, sex-obsessed but otherwise socially well adjusted guy who just wants to have frequent, casual sex with women, go to find non-predatory, sex-obsessed but otherwise socially well adjusted women who just want to have frequent, casual sex with men?

Do singles go to swinger clubs?

Very often any situation can be turned around and made

too look like something it is not.

In my situation, I was attending a meeting in Palo Alto

in the late 1980's and the gal approached me during a

coffee break and we exchanged phone numbers. We were

both attracted to each other and we had a 11 month

affair that was both rewarding and beneficial.

Their was no predatory nature other then the normal

response we all feel from mutual attraction.

I have no issue with what you describe. People go to a job to make a living, but can find the love of their life with a co-worker. However, their sole motivation for seeking employment was not to pick up women, lol.

What I was responding to is feigning a problem in hopes of scoring with a "nmyphomaniac."

I'm the first to admit to being a horn-dog. When I get a traffic ticket and go to traffic school to keep from getting points on my driver's license, I go to the one day in person class rather than doing it on line, because might meet a woman that...........well you get the picture, lol.

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Too much sex is still not enough