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"What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
 
   And please don't answer $600...yeah, I can subtract too!


Really, the average escort charges around 300 bucks. But when you see a chick that advertises as $900 (or more), what the hell is she doing above and beyond the average escort that justifies the ridiculously high rate?


Please, let's not get shills or the providers themselves under fake handles defending what I contest is price gouging. The way I see it, these chicks are not active and/or desired providers but squatters mediocre at what they do who simply wait for suckers. I want to hear from people who actually frequent such high-priced hookers and give reasons why they pay so much for pussy.


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1. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   The difference is six hundred bucks............I have paid 600 an hour once, for a hot blonde, who had no reviews, and it sucked. She was not any better than the two hundred gal, but since she asked, and I was rolling in money at the time, and I was a sucker, I paid it.

Bottom line is, you never know what you can get for a product or service til you ask. Some girls ask for six, and get it. Most dont.
The higher priced gals make you believe they are professional, wild, sensual, and worth the price. Porn stars, beautys, and gals with excellent reviews over years like Giselle from Bolivia, get 600 or so.

Its all supply and demand my friend.

Who would have guessed that a company would have the audacity to ask 3 bucks for a cup of coffee!!!!! Its one buck at mc ds or at 7 11, but we gladly pay 3 bucks because............they ask for it.

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2. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   >And please don't answer $600...yeah, I can subtract too!
>
>
>Really, the average escort charges around 300 bucks.

Really? Where do you play? The "average" escort is under $200 with many providing at the $150 level for a full hour. I think $300 is way high let alone $600! No one has that golden a pussy..

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3. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 19-Apr-10 AT 09:50 AM (PST)
 
The perception of exclusivity is the reason that some men with the

means too pay more do so. The women think that they belong in a

different league only available too men with very high income and

expensive tastes. The men think that by paying more they our getting

a provider that has less daily contact with the common man and less

wear and tear on her pussy. How about that movie "Indecent Proposal"

where a guy offer a million dollars....now that is inflation.

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4. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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I only need the half hour appointment since these girls aren't my girlfriend and I don't need to spend all that much time with them, so I see the $300/hour girls for $200 for the half hour. If you are really clever, nice, etc you can stretch that a bit to 45 minutes. No one thus far has seemed to mind especially since I find someone I like and see that person for some time. I have seen pretty to gorgeous girls at the same prices $200 and sometimes $300 when the Canadian girls are around and they don't offer half hour appointments. There is no reason to spend $900 and I could session four times or six since one of my regulars only charges me $150 for the half hour.

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5. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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Balls.

Be the change
you wish to see

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6. "Keyword?"
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LAST EDITED ON 19-Apr-10 AT 11:06 AM (PST)
 
The key word here is 'PERCEPTION'.

It is the perception of the hobbyist that plays in the upper-scale arena that the provider will be more available to him. Intellectually, spiritually and otherwise. I personally don't think it's about 'what she'll do' that's different. I'm not so sure there's much difference in the services offered, however it IS in the delivery and the commitment from the young lady where the rubber meets the road.

We aren't talking about the 1/2 hour type date in any way. The old in-squirt-ahhhhh isn't applicable.

I've played on EVERY level of the hobby beginning in the late 60's with a $14.00 overnite, to street walkers, to supposed non-pros, to pros and aamps, including the UPPER reaches of the courtesan world.

In 2002 I discovered a girl named Aliyanna Lee on another board and emailed her. For a load of reasons we were unable to connect for an appointment and began an email relationship that lasted 14 months and finally were able to meet. Her business model was minimum 3 hour encounters at $1500 and later in her career became 3 hours at $2500 with $6000 as her overnite rate. Now she's retired after following her plan and her exit strategy, a clever and very bright woman who knew from the very beginning what she wanted to do. She set herself up and waited and was patient and soon enough men requested her services. To a man it was commented that she again was a very clever businesswoman and she was. My ATF for 6 1/2 years until she retired.

BTW, ATF is singular gents.

Later on I met a girl in Los Angeles named Grace W. formerly Lio of Los Angeles who did the same thing. Lio/Grace has a $6000 overnite rate and is busy. Can we talk about Art History, RnB, World Affairs, Politics, Animation? Yes! A resounding yes. And, that is a quality that you won't necessarily find with a less expensive girl. Not to say that any of the others are less intelligent. On the contrary, I know a number of other young ladies that consistently amaze me with their command of the English language and many deep and interesting subjects. However, something about taking the time to dig into anything other than the hobby is limited. Meeting Lio/Grace was in about 2004 and to this day I communicate with both Aliyanna and Grace having become pretty close friends.

Perhaps these ladies aren't burdened with the typical mind set that they need to be in fear of their profession. Discreet? Oh yes!!!! To a fault, but I never sensed any fear. And we all know we sense that from time to time with some girls.

Same applies to Sky Andrews and Amy Darren from Australia. Sky a swimsuit model traveled internationally and Amy Darren an Australian Penthouse Centerfold. Each of these girls $1200 per hour and busy.

Somehow or the other these young women understand how to navigate the real world of the hobbyist with money and never really approach the hobbyist that is interested in the $200 girl.

It's simply 'PERCEPTION' and the application of a different business model.

My recommendation to hobbyists on a regular basis is to ignore the ads if they don't appeal to them. If the pricing structure is something that's offensive or out of someones' range or whatever, then ignore the ad and move on to someone you really feel comfortable with.

Last year I met a young woman who simply changes the air quality in the room named Evita Moren. Perhaps the brightest young woman I've met in my lifetime. Her rate is $350 incall and $400 outcall. I'll say I was so surprised when I met her at 18 years old. A deep, deep soul, talented in many other areas including writing, web design and graphic arts/design. A true thinker with a wonderful sense of humor and the ability to make one feel as if you're the only man alive. My point? I'd pay her $10,000 overnite, or whatever. I would NOT care. Her reviews say pretty much that all men would like to take her off the market. And, she's $350 an hour. So......I got lucky and when my ATF retired, another appeared mysteriously.

There is a huge cadre of hobbyists in the world who are not concerned with the donation the girl reqests. Paola Rey porn actress from Brazil is a good friend. Her rate starts with 3 hour minimum at $3000. And, when she's providing, which she's not at the moment, she's so busy she cannot keep up with appointment requests. Men who travel in this arena are quiet, UTR, don't post, and search carefully and pursue the courtesan who exhibits the characteristics and qualities they're interested in.

Sky Andrews for example had an arrangement a few years ago with a New York business man for something like 4 months at $250,000. Her own Central Park Apartment, credit card for shopping, car anywhere she wanted to go etc.. She complained to me of being horribly bored with the need to be almost on-call for this guy 100% of the time. Pretty awful if you ask me, and he only saw her maybe once a week. And the rule was....no providing while on contract. Sadly it sent her home to Brisbane to retire.

Shelly Yang, an asian girl in the Bay Area starts with $500 an hour and goes up and then a newer discovery for me who was delivered UTR from a friend named Grace Komigato who has a 2 hour minimum at $2000.

Ms. Komigato is the epitome of the courtesan providing a level of personal attention I have rarely experienced. Having spent quite a long time with her I know without inquiring or prying into her business that she's very much in demand, quite selective and has enjoyed the company of more than one well-heeled hobbyist.

Now, just last week I saw an incredibly delightful young woman named Jennifer Matsui for 2 hours at $500 and had an absolute blast. And, made another date for later this week.

So, I'm not a provider snob if you will. I'll frequent all levels of the hobby still if I'm attracted to the young lady.

There are girls who charge $150 who could be dragging down thousands and there are girls who request thousands who really shouldn't be asking for $100.

So, I'm not sure if any of that will help. It IS what you asked for.

My position on the subject of why spend alot of money on a young lady is.....

I'm not so much concerned personally about the money. I'm concerned about my personal perception of how the experience will benefit the two of us. Not just me.

Now, I'm sure I left something out and will post if I think of something. It's not all that complicated really, and if you think about the idea that there are many men out there who are TOTALLY QUIET AND DISCREET that you never hear from, don't know and never will, maybe you'll begin to realize how this exists.

After all.....THERE IS AN ASS FOR EVERY SEAT!

tra

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10. "RE: Keyword?"
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Just fuck the girls, don't romance them. $6000 a night, damn stupid even if you are one of the silicon valley billionaires, which one, care to tell?

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12. "RE: Keyword?"
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This thread isn't about me.

It was a specific question.

If you'd like to start a new thread to discuss the characteristics of the hobbyist that has no budget, you should do that.

tra

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13. "RE: Keyword?"
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Very interesting story, tra!

So, you know Paola Rey? She's just lovely.

And Evita Moren's ads caught my attention, too. Sigh. Maybe some day.

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14. "RE: Keyword?"
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Yes I know Paola very well. We've known each other something like 6 years from when I lived in L.A..

I was her first ThE OtheR Board review from back before I got banned for letting her use my computer to host Tuesday night chat. LOL, they thought it was me speaking Portuguese, Spanish, French and Tagalog during chat and yanked my access.

She and I became very close personal friends, I was involved in the beginning of her website and wrote a number of her Diary Entries for her with her chatting a mile a minute, so they made sense in English.

Evita and I are also very close friends and I will say one of my most valued. I'll hope to know Evita as well for many years to come.

Anyway, I'm glad you liked the post.

tra

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19. "RE: Keyword?"
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Nice post Tra. Thanks for sharing.

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20. "RE: Keyword?"
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   The keyword here is “STUPIDITY”

There are two classes of smart women

First class = By definition, bright women
Hillary Clinton
Condoleezza Rice
Meg Whitman
Indra Nooyi
Zoe Cruz
Michelle Obama
(love em or hate em but can't deny the fact)

Second class = By definition, successful “Hustlers”
Woman who charge 1000's per session because they have enough street smart to know that some men are complete idiots who actually buy into the whole "Upper class, sophisticate whore" perception.

If you don't know the difference between the two, then I have a beach house in the Moabi desert I’ll sell you.


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23. "RE: Keyword?"
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Agree totally. Tra who wrote the longest post I have ever seen went on and on about the escort who could talk to him about Art History, RnB (what ever the hell it us), world affairs, politics, animation all for $6000 a night. He went in to say how close personal friends he is with some of these girls, bullshit! They are close personal friends with his cash.

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25. "RE: Keyword?"
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"RnB (what ever the hell it us)"

Rhythm 'N Blues.

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22. "RE: Keyword?"
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Thank you very much for posting and thus sharing your thoughts on this topic. It has always intrigued me as to why is there, sometimes, so much difference, and your post has some very good answers.

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7. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   all i know is most of the girls that charge this rate don't normaly escort. they put a price out there thinking that if they get it what the hay. they have a normal life and job i don't really care. i have seen some (average looking) woman on here that charge alot and say they only meet 1 to 2 people per week. that is fine but why $700.00 for a hour that doesn't make sense.
just my view on the situation

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8. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   >And please don't answer $600...yeah, I can subtract too!
>


Exclusivity. Few can afford them, and fewer are willing to pay. As such these girls see very few clients. And many guys like the fact that these girls see only 4 or 8 clients a month.

The interesting thing is that for these girls dinner dates, or multi-hour engagements are the norm. So they get 2 to 10k per client. They can make 10 to 20 K a month with a few regulars.

There is a great section in Superfreakanomics about this very topic. Worth a read.

culo is a culo

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15. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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Can you link the section?

I'd love to read it.

tra

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9. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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LAST EDITED ON 19-Apr-10 AT 11:33 AM (PST)
 
I’m not in the category you wanted responses from, and doubt that many here who visit this forum are. I paid an exorbitant amount for a Las Vegas agency girl many years ago….damn she was hot, but worth the price, NOT.

I’ve done a few $400 hour ladies, well established, outstanding reviews, and they were worth every penny.

In the business world there are a lot of product pricing strategies that add 10% more value to the product and 25% more to the price.

Is the price difference between a fully loaded Chevrolet and a Cadillac worth the price difference?

A lady may price her sessions at $900 and only want to see one client a week. $3,600 a month under the table is good income augmentation with minimum risk and disruption to personal life. The guys who willing can pay this for a “typical” session are not going to be the bottom feeders filled with drama. So she has a clientele that she feels more comfortable with seeing.

Also, there are the women who are just unrealistic because somebody told them they were cute and they think they just have to spread their legs. RESEARCH!


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Too much sex is still not enough

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11. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   I know a guy with tons of money who never spends under a thousand an hour for an escort.
He sometimes brings them to functions I am at. Each of the women I've met have been smoking hot. Beautiful faces, perfect bodies. Easy to talk to.

Just don't think you'll find that in the 3 hundred dollar range. But when it comes to strictly fucking, a 2 hundred an hour girl could be way better than the expensive eye candy.


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16. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   I think that one important distinction is that the truly upmarket ladies won't see you for an hour, unless you are a serious regular who has a brief opening in his schedule and has an urgent need that must be met.

Most of the top quality ladies will have a multi-hour (e.g. 3+) minimum and are all about quality. And in fact I believe that many of the best are really looking to settle into a few long term relationships.

I started seeing a young lady like that in 2006 in London (back in the bull market days) and from the first time I saw her she took my breath away. Late 20s, Oxford degree, absolutely beautiful, charming, witty, a superb conversationalist, she was a treasure both in and out of bed. She had worked for an I-bank but was bored after a few years and decided to try something completely different. After a few months, she wound up seeing very few clients, and by the time I met her less than 12 months into her career I was very lucky to get the opportunity. I remember our first dinner at the Connaught in London; we met at the bar and then walked into the dining room, which was packed with business types. Conversations literally stopped as we headed to our table, and there was a very discernable drop in noise levels, with almost every male head (and a few females too) turning to have a closer look. I fell hook, line and sinker, and within two months had her on a semi-exclusive retainer during which she would fly over and join me on business trips here in the US. I remember playing pool in the lobby of the Delano in SoBe and she stopped the crowd there too (as well as kicking my butt at pool).

Was it expensive? Definitely! Worth it? From my perspective: absolutely! It was a bull market in stocks and real estate, I happened to have extra discretonary income, and I was travelling a fair amount.

What was so special from my viewpoint was that not only was the bedroom action fabulous, but so were dinner conversations, beach conversations, shopping expeditions, and the long chats and e-mails we shared between London and the West Coast. She was vibrantly curious and it was a delight to shares experiences and knowledge with her. And this girl wasn't even spoilt. True, she had her goals and objectives, but she was happy to fly in premium economy. She much preferred the string of perfect 12mm Japanese pearls than sitting up towards the front of the plane (well she did get to a few times). She was outraged at what clothes cost at Chanel and Armani and loved the idea of having five good knock-offs for the price of one of the originals. And did she ever look fabulous?! I remember the manager of the Carlyle coming to greet us one evening on our way out and saying to us (her really) how privileged the hotel was to have such a beautiful and charming guest. (Yes, we were in fact heading off to the Met, but via limousine and not a G-IV).

We were together for almost three years and I look back with enormous fondness on that period.

So in summary I think that the idea of paying $900 for "an hour" seems unreasonable, if all you are looking for is the bedrom experience. You can probably get top notch talent for half that or less and both come out extremely satisfied.

But a real, ultra high end escort, or even better semi-pro, is a very special experience indeed and for me (but I accept that many here won't share my inclinations) it was definitely worth it.

As an aside, my friend has now retired, is about to become engaged to a very nice man, invested her money very wisely in income producing London real estate (how often one hears stories of girls who blow it all on transitory pleasures), and seems set for a happy and comfortable life. We remain good friends and keep in touch regularly, and if we can ever find a way to do so discreetly, I will wind up as godfather to one of her children. So I consider myself to have been very lucky indeed.

Quality is remembered long after price is forgotten...


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17. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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LAST EDITED ON 19-Apr-10 AT 03:28 PM (PST)
 
gjs is a classic example of the gentleman I'm referring to.

There are many gentlemen who stay very quiet and travel waaaaaaaay up in the upper level of the Courtesan World.

I personally am rather outspoken and visible, however there are large numbers of men like him who can report similar stories.

Believe me, I got stories. I can just bet gjs does and I'd love to hear some of them.

tra

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18. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   Marketing and packaging.

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21. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   $600.00, and an extra bar of Irish Spring soap! That's the difference, I had to say it.

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24. "RE: What's the difference between a $300 and a $900 escort?"
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   Based on my experience and opinion:

People who have had a truly intimate bonding relationship at a deep love/friendship level know one very important thing - it can not be bought with any amount of money.

I have seen people with money who claimed and believed they had bought love, but that seemed to be an illusion not shared by anyone around them. Yes, women can be bought, but not their true love and friendship.

Copious amounts of cash certainly can bring delight, appreciation, and gratitude, but not love and genuine deep friendship. Certainly love and genuine friendship can develop despite the transfer of copious amounts of cash, but sorting out what is what is very challenging and so tainted by wishful thinking? How wonderfully close would the relationship be without all that cash infusion?

So back to the OP question: mostly the same raw ingrediants better packaged and marketed to a select niche of ready and able customers. I would guess that only a third of the time are the raw ingrediants actually noticeably better.

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