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sonny151
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"Does your ATF really like you???"
 
   Do any of these lovelies, really like us?? And if not, should we care??


Do what feels good...

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1. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   The pros really make you think that they do indeed like you. Some may, some may not.

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2. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   >Do any of these lovelies, really like us?? And if not, should we care??

I look at it differently. I really don't think much about whether my ATF likes me or not. I know that I definitely like her and I am in a good mood when I am with her. That's all I care about. And as long as she gives me great service and a great experience, I am as happy as can be. Whether she cares about me or not is irrelevant for me.

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3. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   agree with you on this. if she shows me a great time and makes me feel good while i'm with her that's what matters. i know that once i walk out the door she is updating her to get another guy in.

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4. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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>agree with you on this. if she shows me a great time and
>makes me feel good while i'm with her that's what matters. i
>know that once i walk out the door she is updating her to
>get another guy in.

She is?! Updating for the next guy? Why that little slut! And I thought she really, really liked me.

-Oryx

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15. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   Agree with Lefeu. Its human nature to feel as if you are special to someone. So we treat them that way expecting the same in return. But soon as you walk out the door the next person after you is going to be treated the same by your ATF.

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5. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   They want you to think they like you so that you repeat and bring in the $$$. It's all a business, we are just tricks to them.

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6. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   Define like.

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8. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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>>Define like.

Very good point. I'd say my current ATF does enjoy her time with me. I believe she really does find me attractive. I believe when I call her up she gets excited for the date. I believe she truly enjoys the sex and her passion is legitimate. That being said, she wouldn't want anything to do with me outside of our 'business' relationship. So, do you think she likes me?

I'm a waiter. Some guests I 'like.' Some spend a ton and tip well. Some aren't big spenders but are cool to talk to. Some are chill and low-maintenance. I don't wanna have anything to do with them after they leave the restaurant, but I liked waiting on them.

So basically, yeah, define like...

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7. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   As long as I'm giving her money she does.

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9. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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All you can really believe is that she prefers to be with your over being alone, and of all the guys who want to be with her, she prefers spending time with you over them. You know these things because those are choices made by her. Beyond that, it's anybody's guess.

Be the change
you wish to see

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10. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   I think mine does. We've been seeing a long time, and every now and then do other stuff too together. And the meter is not running on those occasions, we just hang out as friends...

Do I care whether she likes me? Sure, cos we are fiends too. In that sense I do. And care about her the same way.

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12. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   >I think mine does. We've been seeing a long time, and every
>now and then do other stuff too together. And the meter is
>not running on those occasions, we just hang out as
>friends...
>Do I care whether she likes me? Sure, cos we are fiends too.
>In that sense I do. And care about her the same way.

Despite the fact that the relationship between a man and an escort has an economic foundation, I believe that the escort may actually develop at the very least the semblance of affection for the man. I'm sure that many escorts become adroit judges of character after having been with so many men, and can discern a good man. I'm sure that some of their johns set themselves apart from their fellows by treating the escort exceptionally well.
Therefore, even though the relationship is predicated on an economic exchange, the escort may genuinely like her john. In some instances, she discloses to him her true name, and even engages in social activities without any compensation.

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11. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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No. they just like the money. Don't get into the illusion that the ATF like you, you will be disapointed. It's all business. the moan, the fake orgasm. The good ATF will pretend that she likes you, pretend that she cares, she's into the session.

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BEERBUD99
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19. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   I don't agree with that. Why would she spend time without compensation, turning down business she could do if we weren't hanging out? I only pay for a session when we session. I don't pay for any other time we hang out. If she only cared about the sessions, then that's what we would only do. And I would still see her, as her sessions are top notch.

It's totally possible to be a friend with a provider. It's not like they are (all) money making machines who don't want/need any friends. We just like hanging out together, but there's no pressure to do so. She does not need to 'invest' the time to ensure I book the next session. And pure $$$ vice she'd be better off not hanging out with me and not having me as a customer. If that's all I was.

It just get's hairy if you go beyond friendship (see below).

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13. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   Not a very good chance they really like us without the $$$$$$$$$>.

We should not care if they like us...We our their to have fun and

leave...that's what we pay for.

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14. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-May-10 AT 08:01 AM (PST)
 
Wow good question.

Well I am seeing a provider who quit escorting (or at least pulled her ads) for me. The deal is that I support her to the tune of an average dollar figure we worked out. We do not have a fixed amount of time, some months a lot, some months not much. Sometimes we go for long drives, sometimes dinner with friends, she knows mine, I know hers, and also beginning to know her family (but I knew her name by the first session).

Sometimes (like now) we get in arguments, but we always seem to work things out. She gets emotional sometimes, and I always calm her down.

She is allowed to do a trick every now and then, as long as she tells me (she does enjoy the biz).

We can date others.

I have loaned her money, she has paid it back (four figures).

She takes care of my cat and watches my house when I am overseas. If I need a ride to the airport she takes me. I frequently buy her dinners.

What does this sound like to u guys?

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16. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   I don't care if she likes me. Do you think she cares if I like her?
If she really liked me she'd want me to hang with her and
fuck me just for the fun of it. She doesn't.

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17. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-May-10 AT 09:50 AM (PST)
 
>What does this sound like to u guys?

That she found a PLM to take care of her.

She still turns a trick because she likes the biz? But you pay her for near exclusivity? But she can see others?

As far as I can see all the benefit is on her side, not yours. I do not hear any talk of a relationship. Picking you up, watching your house, etc. are just additional services that you pay for.

Do pros and mongers ever take it beyond strict p4p? It happens. But I would say those instances are the exception. And these relationships usually fail, at least as documented on this site.

Do ATFs like their regulars? In some cases I am sure the provider likes the monger, or at least finds spending time with him acceptable. But if you think that she has any romantic interest in you, you are dead wrong. You are a means to an ends.

Why does she cultivate a 'relationship' with the regular? First, it is easy money - she knows what to expect, no worries. New clients always come with a certain amount of uncertainty. Regulars tend to tip, meaning more money. More money, less hassles.


culo is a culo

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23. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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LAST EDITED ON 02-May-10 AT 10:43 AM (PST)
 
>Do ATFs like their regulars? In some cases I am sure the provider likes the monger, or at least finds spending time with him acceptable. But if you think that she has any romantic interest in you, you are dead wrong. You are a means to an ends.

That sounds reasonable, and perhaps even expected. A regular, probably, does represent to her a more or less dependable source of income that she can count on; that will be the economic aspect of the situation, but even so, there is the aspect of people to people relationship. Based on that, I would think that If she happens to like the regular, as someone she could possibly have as a friend or even date outside of the business, then it must make it even easier for her to spend time with him. Therefore; "acceptable" as you mention. In contrast with that scenario, and as a hired person to perform a service, if she has to smile despite not finding the client likable because of his physical appearance, hygiene factors, behavior, etc., then I would imagine it surely becomes a dreadful job she has to do because it is the "mean to an end".

As far as romantic interest, there must be instances, which are the exception to the rule, as documented in this site as well, but it looks like a very small minority. --If that was the original intent of the question.

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21. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   Frankly, sounds like a lot of pain on it's way....

IF you were just buying an almost exclusive 'service contract' with her, I would say go for it.

But the part "took down her ads FOR ME" tells me that there's a whole lot more going on here. You are thinking/hoping you have a long term romantic relationship. If you asked her to take down her ads, then clearly you don't want her to work.

Nobody's providing because they enjoy it. They are all forced into it one way or another. Mostly pretty damaging stuff. Meaning, not many active providers are in a place where they are able to have a true romantic relationship with anybody.

I don't say it's impossible, but I would never get into a romantic relationship with a provider unless they had other means of supporting themselves and hence money did not play a part in exploring a life together. Cos if you pay to have her around, is she there because you pay, or because she wants to, and paying is just because she does not have other means of supporting herself? You never know, and that means that a relationship will most likely not work.

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18. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-May-10 AT 10:10 AM (PST)
 
You repeated many times for any number of reason. " Given that YOU repeated (hopefully) because your session was excellent and NOT because you were seeking a romantic relationship"

1, Found something in common outside of sex and communication is excellent.

2, Your preference fit in nicely within her type of session.

3, Developed mutual trust that was not broken over a long period of time.

4, You respect her as a person and choices she makes and she respects you in the same manner. ( This becomes clear only after a long period)

5, Fairness in Give and Take dynamic.

6, Mutual ability to problem solve conflicts immediately and let go of things that can not be changed.

In short, it is same as any relationship and your ability to see it as same has something to do with the possibility of finding ATF.

If you constantly objectify her as sex toy, have underlying hatred against women who have sex with multiple partners and never trust provider regardless of her character, or constantly seeking very young women ( big age difference) with the model looks.... You will be treated in same manner...

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20. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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Yes -mine loves me!!!-lol

Really how much can a 20 y/o like a man 2-3 times their age. I really give them credit for how well they handle themselves that way. When I was 20 the thought of being with a middle aged woman... well.. nuff said.

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22. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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I have an easy way to confirm this. Just ask your RA if she will spend time with you without being paid.

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24. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   Yeah, she may like you but she likes you for your money more. Remember most but not all of these girls are fucked up. If you saw the type of guys they prefer in their personal life, you would probably not want to see them anymore. They usually go for the guys that are as fucked up as they are and not the most pleasing to look at. I have been in this for some time now, so I have seen a couple of girls out and about with their "boyfriends". Most are just fucked up mentally and its too much to even try to think you can begin to figure it out.

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25. "RE: Does your ATF really like you???"
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   Put me in the who gives a fuck column.

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