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mr_magoo007 mr_magoo007 rating
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"craigsilst"
 
   seeing all these posts from cl, with all these sting operations going on do you think it is safe to meet one of these girls?

thanks

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iluvmuff
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2. "RE: craigsilst"
In response to message #0
 
Be careful with Craigslist, lots of "Bait n Switch" bitches on there.

"ASS, GRASS OR BLOWJOBS"

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3. "RE: craigsilst"
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   i understand the bait and switch but the police is what i am afraid of

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5. "RE: craigsilst"
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From my own experience in dealing with CL, I hang up on the chicks that wants to talk about business and money on the phone..I suspect those are LE or they're just stupid..either way i avoid those.

When i do connect with one, i make sure to tell them, if they don't match the pic in the ad..I will leave. This usually weeds out the bait n switch bitches.

All in all, i've had pretty good experience with the girls on CL.

I had dealt with 2 bait n switch bitches and true to my word..I left.

Pissed off as they were...I didn't give a fuck!!!

"ASS, GRASS OR BLOWJOBS"

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6. "RE: craigsilst"
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   well i have been emailing one and have already emailed about the money. how did you know they were not the police when meeting them? what is the best way to make sure?

thanks!

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01-May-10, 08:48 PM (PST)
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7. "RE: craigsilst"
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CL has no real way to review girls like RB does. If the girl is not as the photo suggests, be prepared to walk with one eye over your shoulder

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9. "RE: craigsilst"
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Yes.

Be the change
you wish to see

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10. "RE: craigsilst"
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   CL is for more seasoned hobbyist who knows how to ask the proper questions when contacting those girls. Sometimes you can find a new girl who isn't business jaded on CL that is pretty good. But since CL changed its rules for submitting ads, those type of girls are fewer. If you are suspicious that the girl is LE, but maybe you still want to see her, then ask her if she does outcalls. If she does, then set up a meeting place. LE will not do outcalls or waste their time setting up an outcall. Also, if the voice doesn't match the ad, I would be suspicious. An older girl or women will have a deeper voice and has better telephone skills as a rule, and LE will use women officers who are older (at least 25 and older). If it sounds too suspicious, move on to the next. Trust your instincts; there are too many other legitimate ads out there.

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11. "RE: craigsilst"
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a lot of CL providers are also on RB .. run their number through the RB search engine

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12. "RE: craigsilst"
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   why would you want to do cl when your on redbook where there are better and safer girls on here??

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14. "RE: craigsilst"
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   IMHO I think the girls on Rb are safer but no matter where you hobby be safe and very careful. This is election year and many depts are short on budget. Vice and LE are out their working hard. Don't get caught up in their crap. When in doubt...get the f*** out! Be safe gents!

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15. "RE: craigsilst"
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   >seeing all these posts from cl, with all these sting
>operations going on do you think it is safe to meet one of
>these girls?
>
>thanks

I would never use Craig's List myself to hire an escort. Horror stories abound of guys being robbed or hurt by providers and their criminal boyfriends. Craig's List is unreliable and unregulated, so the victimized individual has negligible recourse. Redbook, the Eros Guide, are sufficient.

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16. "RE: craigsilst"
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i totally agree with you with regards to CL.

regarding eros guide, i find it slightly useful, but there's no way (at least that i know) to verify if a provider advertising there is legit, so i tend not to use it as a source...

what are your thoughts about them?

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17. "RE: craigsilst"
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-May-10 AT 11:49 AM (PST)
 
The vast majority of sting operations are likely geared to catching pedophiles and drug/weapons dealers. I think prostitutes and johns over 18 are generally safe. There is just no money to be made in trying to incarcerate someone for engaging in the oldest profession in history. More importantly, LE has no justification for spending tax dollars and no point to make to the rest of society when condemning two consenting adults who are neither famous (and thus tabloid-worthy) nor under legal age.

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18. "RE: craigsilst"
In response to message #17
 
   >The vast majority of sting operations are likely geared to
>catching pedophiles and drug/weapons dealers. I think
>prostitutes and johns over 18 are generally safe. There is
>just no money to be made in trying to incarcerate someone
>for engaging in the oldest profession in history. More
>importantly, LE has no justification for spending tax
>dollars and no point to make to the rest of society when
>condemning two consenting adults who are neither famous (and
>thus tabloid-worthy) nor under legal age.

what bubble have you been living in?
LE will and does chase all the pieces of the puzzle as they usually leads to something else.
And le has justification for spending tax dollars as both homeowners,biz owners dont want hookers, cruisers, johns, and pimps within reach of their place.

nailing johns is easy for the le to say to the public, " hey, we are doing something about crime. See the numbers!" It maybe window dressing arrests/crime fighting but its real and ongoing.

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19. "RE: craigsilst"
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   It's you who doesn't get it. Craigslist is the biggest pimp on the planet, and at the moment are protected by federal law when third parties advertise as prostitutes. If LE was really serious about cracking down on the illegal sex business being permitted by Craigslist, they wouldn't be content about arresting a few people here and there. The federal law can be changed, and those in power DO have the abilities to make it happen. They should put away Craigslist as they would any other pimp.

But you don't see them doing that, do you?

No, I didn't think so.

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04-May-10, 06:44 PM (PST)
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20. "RE: craigsilst"
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   Storehouse, your missing that fact that these are two separate law enforcment entities.

Federal or state LAWMAKERS would handle the laws re changing/shutting down CL.

Local or state POLICE are who will arrest you in a prostitution sting.

Police can vigorously pursue prostitution, while the lawmakers wrestle with how to remove prostitution from the web without raising a bunch of sensorship issues.

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22. "RE: craigsilst"
In response to message #19
 
> Craigslist is the biggest pimp
> on the planet, and at the moment are protected by federal
> law when third parties advertise as prostitutes. If LE was
> really serious about cracking down on the illegal sex
> business being permitted by Craigslist, they wouldn't be
> content about arresting a few people here and there. The
> federal law can be changed, and those in power DO have the
> abilities to make it happen. They should put away
> Craigslist as they would any other pimp.
>

Using this reasoning would lead one to conclude the same thing about RB, since it is a venue for similar advertising. Or am I missing something?

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26. "RE: craigsilst"
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   Bullshit! You either don't read the boards very often, or you have a vested personal interest in spreading that idea.

I do read Craig's list occasionally, but if I see someone interesting I google the phone number to see if they also have ad's on sites like RB that include Reviews. I won't see anyone that does not have reviews, or positive comments in 411 forums. If Google shows nothing but phone search engines, MOVE ON.

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21. "RE: craigsilst"
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   Back to the original question...

There is too much risk all around with CL. Personally, got some great non-pros there, but never had a regular provider from there who wasn't much worse than pics, services different than promised, or some other problem or drama. And this was before all the LE issues. With the security of RB reviews, why bother?

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23. "RE: craigsilst"
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Every provider I've ever gotten off of CL has been bait n' switch, a ROB, an upseller, or, worse, an outright thief. Perhaps CL can be used effectively by someone else other than me, but after all the "fun" I've had with CL providers, I'll avoid that venue like the plague. If you factor in the LE problem, my conclusion is: Never again!

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24. "RE: craigsilst"
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Tried CL for the 1st time recently and it was a positive experience, but I was careful and followed some of the input outlined here already.

But, there's a BP girl I've been considering yet there aren't any of the positive indicators that give a comfort level and I'm holding off because going in blind is stupid, IMHO.

On the issue of whether CL is a target, just last night I decided that to get some further comfort level about seeing a lady who's been inboxing me here, I ran a couple of searches and bingo. Found a high profile sting that she'd gotten snared in based upon her prior CL ad where apparently she no longer posts. But, only after she learned the hard way. Also found other threads here that were discussing her when she was a CL provider also and overall ended up with a thumbs up assessment so she's on the list. Plus, though she migrated from CL to RB, she's now an established RB provider.

Research: it works. If it doesn't yield positive results, move on. You really can't undo a mistake that can result if you're going on guesswork instead of solid intel and the net result may be lots worse than just wasted hobby bucks.

One of the most entertaining TOFTT reports I've read recently in a slow-down-for-the-car-wreck sorta way was by an experienced guy who nevertheless despite research and being rather sophisticated ended up in a dicey situation. The comments in reply to the TOFTT report pretty uniformly gave a sense of "better you than me..." and "holy smokes, that can happen even to him..." and "dude, that bites." Yeah, no kidding.

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25. "RE: craigsilst"
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I only use Red book and use the reviews to qualify a provider. that has worked best for me.

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