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Traveler186
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17-Jun-10, 07:40 PM (PST)
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"Safety of In vs Outcall"
 
   I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the safety of hotel incalls vs. getting your own hotel for outcall (not to your home outcall). Safety could be from a law enforcement (outcall is safer?) or a provider who may make trouble for you later (incall is safer?).

If either option was available to you and the cost of the hotel wasn't a barrier, would you choose hotel incall or hotel outcall and why?

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1. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   Potential issues with both...


CLIENT GETTING THE ROOM

The problems with this can be many. If married, the wife might question the charge on your credit card. Do you really want to hassle going out and getting a prepaid card to do this? Worth the hassle? You also might get some junk mail or other letter from the Hotel/Motel that wifey opens and saying something like "thank you for staying with us last month would you be interested in filling out a survey of your stay"? Now I'm sort of making up the last part, but it could happen, and if the wife sees that, well, do you want to deal with that?

Being single doesn't completely remove all risk but can be reduced. Make sure when you are "done" that you have her leave and check out. Do not let her use the room as you will be responsible for any potential damages, maybe she gets busted a few hours later, etc. This has been discussed many times in this Forum. Don't let her use the room afterwards. One other problem is that you have to agree to meet there at a certain time. I recall, years ago, when some Hooker wanted me to get the room FIRST and then she would call and come over. I declined. What if she doesn't show or is several hours late? Too many hassles.

HOOKER GETS THE ROOM

Not much downside here other than a pimp could be hiding in the bathroom or let himself in while you're butt naked and rob you. Might be LE is checking warrants and goes up to the room at the time you are in there. Might be remote on that bit, but not totally out of the question.

Overall, have HER get the room and to avoid any hassles just see girls with a lot of Reviews who have been around for some time. I start searching if considering someone new by going through the Star Ranking as it is faster and can be pretty damn sure if she's been around for 6+ months with somewhere around 10 or more reviews from credible Men, I'm not going to have any problems.

In summary. Bag the idea of getting the room on your own unless of course you are staying already at a Hotel on business or something similar.

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viphawaii viphawaii rating
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2. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   What he said except overall Outcalls to hotels rooms are safer. First off, after you checkout, you can pay for the room charges with cash. They only use your credit card to hold a deposit (assuming you didn't fuck up the room or anything, nothing will be charged). Also, it's your room, you don't have any potentials of other pimps.
Obviously, the only downfall is $$. Your base cost of the service increased by the room charge. Additionally, if the provider flakes, you just spent that room for nothing. Also, the additional time in renting a room is a pain.

I personally rather take the (small) chance and do incalls to hotels or whatnot. Less hazzle and less $$

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18-Jun-10, 10:02 AM (PST)
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3. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   >>Not much downside here other than a pimp could be hiding in the bathroom or let himself in while you're butt naked and rob you.<<

Um...I think that downside trumps any possible inconveniences in getting it yourself.

And there is another one - LE won't set up a sting on an outcall. They cannot control the situation. But they will set one up in a motel. My guess is that this is the easiest way for them to do it. I went to a motel once and was certain that undercover LE was staked out there. I watched the watchers for close to an hour. Of course I have no way of knowing for sure, but I believe 100% it was a sting.

I can never get comfortable in those motels bc there are always pimps around. A hotel is a different story. But I believe VIPhawaii is right on about getting your own place and paying cash. It's much safer, but you do have to invest time, money, and if you do it long enough you will inevitably get a no show and have to eat the room. But that's just inconvenience and expense versus the chance, however remote, of getting robbed or busted.

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4. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   What's wrong with waiting for the girl in parking lot and then checking in ... No risk of waisting money if she doesn't show.

The argument a pimp might walk in on you. Ummm always make sure the door bolt has been locked before starting and always use bathroom so no surprises

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18-Jun-10, 12:41 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   >>What's wrong with waiting for the girl in parking lot and then checking in ... No risk of waisting money if she doesn't show.

The argument a pimp might walk in on you. Ummm always make sure the door bolt has been locked before starting and always use bathroom so no surprises<<

Regarding the first...duh! That makes total sense. I guess I didn't think of it bc I have never gotten a room, but if I did that's what I would do.

Disagree, though, about the pimp thing. Locking the door isn't going to do much more than stopping him from walking in on you during the deed. I have had them knock on the door. It's disconcerting. And if they want to get in, the will, either with the girl's help or they will wait until you open the door to leave.

Agree with Bone, best to avoid the motels as their incall with the exception being if the provider has been around a while and is well reviewed enough that you are comfortable she's not managed or hanging at one of the motels that provide outcalls to dozens of would-be streetwalkers.

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7. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   Well as I'm leaving I could care less ... Deeds done and you've paid for services rendered ... What's he gona do?

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19-Jun-10, 12:13 PM (PST)
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9. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   >>Well as I'm leaving I could care less ... Deeds done and you've paid for services rendered ... What's he gona do?<<

Well, when you open the door to leave he could come in - pushing you inside - and close the door and rob you. Or he could rob you outside once you walk out.

I think your answer presumes you are smart enough not to bring more money then you need, a watch, a smartphone, an ipad, keys to the house with the address written on them, etc. So there is nothing left to take, yes? But you are also assuming that when you are leaving the services have been rendered. There are a lot of reasons why you would leave without the service being rendered. And if they are planning to rob you, you probably aren't going to be getting the services first. The girl will freak out, change the menu, upsell, say she can't go thorugh with the appt for whatever reason, or do something else to get you to open the door to leave.

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12. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   LAST EDITED ON 19-Jun-10 AT 03:42 PM (PST)
 
dude i never go to a incall with anything other then the money im gonna spend ... so whats he gonna rob me of? i just gave all i had to the provider for the session?

rob me? in day light? thats why i never see a first time girl late or at night .. only during day where it would make a scene if they do anything outside the room

use the big head guys not the little head lol


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13. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   >>Not much downside here other than a pimp could be hiding in the bathroom or let himself in while you're butt naked and rob you.<<

Your average pimp is going to be carrying some cash. If you just rob HIM, you are likely to turn a profit at the end of the day.

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29-Jun-10, 02:51 AM (PST)
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17. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   If you want to see a well reviewed provider who is safe then go to a lady's place where she is in a real nice area and a real nice upscale residence. I only go to a private residence that is upscale and in a very safe area. you usually run less of a risk of bad things happening because she lives there and does not want any trouble. I never ever fool with hotels, motels or holiday inns! Nothing like that. Too many things can go wrong in these places!

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8. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   Since the question is about safety, outcall is much safer. LE do busts only when they can control the environment, johns at incall or providers at outcall, pimps very similar, they want to control the situation, when it's your room you can legally be armed and dangerous, which that possibility scares cops and pimps alike. Cops have a better retirement plan though.

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BEERBUD99
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19-Jun-10, 01:33 PM (PST)
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10. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   If one is really concerned of LE / pimps, get a one (or few) regulars, and there's zero risk. Even outcalls to your home (assuming you have no SO).

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11. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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starting to feel less and less safe every day. been on hiatus for some time due to the safety.

just got a vibe, a spidey sense so to speak..and left.

been right that last 2 times. thought i was gonna get robbed in oakland. almost did. made a gesture to the 2 dudes in the elavator and they backed off real quick.

so,,be safe out there, stick with known people and establishments. dont go to places where you dont know how to get out.

glad i did not partake. frightening experience after the fact. if it's one on one thats one thing. but 2 dudes in an elavator. glad they were not packing.

in todays world it's scary out there.

riding bart is getting scarrier. dont start with the cop jokes.

the scum are getting scummier.

be careful out there.

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29-Jun-10, 07:54 PM (PST)
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19. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   Yeah, as long as it's with someone I'm seeing on a regular basis, I prefer incall at her place. It's more personal than a hotel room and it enhances the GF experience.

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samwork2
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15. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   What abt outcalls to hot tubs.. is it safe ?? and what rules you should follow ??

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18. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-Jun-10 AT 02:55 AM (PST)
 
Damn! Them hot tubs are nasty. You can get all kinds of skin infections from them nasty places!Chlorine or not I know what a guy or a woman leaves in the water...sperm, spit, pee, vaginal blood, etc! And their is plenty of mold you are breathing in or walking on in any of these places also!

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24-Jun-10, 01:14 PM (PST)
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16. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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The hotel association would hate me for saying this: But hotels in general, are a girl's best friend. Specifically, bigger hotels that have hidden video cams that cover the entire building. And hotels that archive footage of those cams are the best to stay in.

Why?

Not going back too long ago, thats how they caught that CL serial killer. Thats why.

Clean, non psycho clients have nothing to hide and shouldnt shy away from hotels. It just gives the provider that much better security, thats all.

"The following takes place between..."

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20. "RE: Safety of In vs Outcall"
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   it depends if it is a first time meeting then it is a outcall. If she was a referring from another girl, does not matter in/outcall.

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