When you say "the org" are you talking about a specific AMP or all AMPS in S.F. or...? If so, please note that I'm asking about independent, non-AMP escorts who advertise online in such venues as RB, CL, Eros Guide, etc. Are you personally aware of sting operations targeted on clients of this specific group of providers? If so, please provide details.

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID8/31397.html

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I also believe that several years ago - milpitas did an internet escort sting inviting johns to a days Inn hotel.. I searched the web a bit and could not find it... but I remember I was going to see a popular provider in milpitas days inn.. and when I got there .. there were 2 tow trucks at the back of the hotel, and what appeared to me to be a police van. and there were a couple of guys walking around the hotel with walkie talkies... so I went to the chevy's (i think its chevys) mexican restuarant in front of the days inn .. and sat at the bar .. and next to me were some plain clothes and a bail bonds person .. drinking cokes and eating lunch ... (there was a line if you wanted a table) --- later the busts were in the news...

Again, to be crystal clear: I'm not talking about somewhere else; I'm not talking about street action; I'm not talking about stings that target the girls; only about sting operations in the Bay Area that have targeted the clients of online escorts who are not employed by AMPS.

You seem to have a point of view that you are defending even when hit over the head with evidence to the contrary

dong

Here's the pertinent portion of the text of Electrablue's post to the thread to which you referred me:

"'The city's budget analyst recommended in his report that the police pursue more Internet stings in hopes of increasing the number of arrests and bringing the program back to firmer financial ground.

But there are both political and logistical issues with this approach. The Internet stings had very small returns, Ravella says; one August sting netted zero arrests. Even when men might respond to ads the police post on Craigslist, many of them simply fail to show up. San Francisco hotels were also unwilling to cooperate with the operations. As a result, Lieutenant Mary Petrie, who was then overseeing vice, put a halt to the web stings, Ravella says.

Targeting Craigslist also has no direct impact on neighborhoods, Ravella says. Given limited police resources, responding to neighborhood complaints comes first.(from pg. 5)'"

"If they decide to do more stings, we should all be on our toes. Sounds like we have a good record."

Let's highlight the pertinent portion of the above quote one more time: "As a result, Lieutenant Mary Petrie, who was then overseeing vice, put a halt to the web stings, Ravella says."

If you think that this constitutes direct evidence that Bay Area LE is currently conducting sting operations targeting the male clients of online escorts, then all I can say is that it is you, not me, that should reread the article and electrablue's comments re it. "Direct evidence" would be either your own personal experience of having been arrested in such a sting operation, an article from a news source documenting the arrest of individuals involved in stings of this type, or some other objectively verifiable info to this effect. I'm not talking about hearsay or speculation about what might occur, needs to occur, is planned for the future or anything else other than "just the facts, maam."

Additionally, I never stated that these stings never occur, only that in my, admittedly, limited experience they are very rare. The article cited above directly supports that contention. Moreover, what is of direct concern to RB hobbyists who utilize the services of online escorts is the question of whether or not such stings are currently occurring. The gist of the article reveals that, according to LE officials, any such internet sting operations would be considered a low priority, due to budgetary constraints and the fact that internet prostitution has no direct effect on neighborhoods.

Finally, I asked (not told) if anyone else had direct info to the contrary. Do you, Dong, have such direct info? If not, then kindly STFU.

Who said that? I'm just friggin' asking and stating what my experience has been, that's all.

"At the very top of even this thread you assert that "...men seeking escorts online are not, to (your) knowledge, targeted for sting operations." And that, mi amigo, is simply wrong. They are."

All right, I hear you saying it, now please provide the direct info that any objective reader would need in order to determine if your assertion is valid or merely your opinion disguised as fact. Again, I'm asking, not telling. I'm just stating my direct experience, noting my observations over the years and soliciting others' experience, direct knowledge and links to news articles, that's all. Just like I asked the Dongster, what has your experience been? Have you ever been targeted in an online escort sting operation or personally known someone who has? Do you have any references to recent news articles detailing the arrest of clients of online escorts? If not, then just say that you haven't or kindly...

I think his first paragraph in the top post in this thread sums it up very well.

One other thing to keep in mind is that it costs the SFPD zero to hint that they do so. They scare a few people off, with no cost whatsoever.

I would be grateful if anyone can send me any confirmable instance of this happening. I don't think it will happen, though.

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FriscoJack

Ditto...seems like I need to boil my shit down to sentences that take up no more than fifteen words in order to be understood (oops, that's twenty-five words, so I've fucked myself again..grrr!)