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glfokker glfokker rating
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17-Jul-10, 07:03 AM (PST)
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"trying to quit"
 
   hi fellow RB brothers. I have a problem. It is not that I'm trying to quit hobbying, but I've picked up a really bad habit these past few years in this hobby. I used to only do only covered but almost all of my encounters are now BBFS. I know the risks and I want to stop but as soon as the hat goes on, after about 5 min, i pull off and finish bb and the providers willingly allow me to. not all, but most. i know eventually i will catch something and fortunately for me, i have not. (yes, tested and all negative, most recent was 2 months ago). i'm willing to try anything even will see a psychotherapist about this issue but do such therapists even exist? how do you go about explaining to a therapist that you see providers and have a problme practicing covered practices. i'm thinking they would think i'm crazy , send me to a psychiatrist and then get prescribed haldol. i know there are some bros in here that hobby safely and some that choose not to. i know the risks and dangers so please no flaming. what i really want is help to quit the bbfs and start going back to safe practices. is there anybody else in the same boat as me?

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open_journey_1999
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17-Jul-10, 08:36 AM (PST)
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1. "RE: trying to quit ... therapist, condoms, procreation"
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OJ

Good morning. Regarding a therapist, I'd suggest looking up someone who deals with sexual addictions, as they might be more comfortable and knowledgeable in this topic. You do not sound like you have a sex addiction, because you don't sound like you see providers that often.

Bareback is intimate. This intimacy is both physically and psychologically important. For someone with a larger dick, a condom will make the experience almost without feeling. Also, some of the larger condoms are hated by providers (Magnum), because of texture and taste. Ask the provider for some other way of getting the physical intimacy: perhaps a fbsm session (getting jacked off) or a bbbj. Once you have a physical alternative, then the psychological intimacy may follow, maybe.

And then there is another experience I have had only with one provider, several years ago (Dutch Sonja in Berkeley). During our sessions, I had this overwhelming thought about getting her pregnant, making babies, etc. (What!!!) But it was really and truly there. Saw her several times at her very high rates, but eventually stopped. The power to procreate is amazing, and maybe that was what was going on. By the way, she'd be an awesome mother: tall, strong, even tempered, kind, ... wow. [By the way, I have an intact family of five, so families are something that I understand.]

Hope these thoughts help.

Good luck,

oj

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3. "RE: trying to quit ... therapist, condoms, procreation"
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   glfokker, my biggest concern is STD. I hate covered anything but have not and will not bbfs, although I do enjoy bbbj.

A 3-hole girl is better than 9 holes of golf!

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4. "Good luck"
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resistance is futile.

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5. "RE: trying to quit"
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Obviously you're endangering yourself, as well as every girl you have BBFS with. You know that, and still continue to do this. I'm not going to judge you, and will just provide the requested advice.

Perhaps it's time that you consider limiting your sexual partners. Find an exclusive sugar baby or girlfriend that you can enjoy BBFS with, without exposing yourself to such high risks. By limiting your and their number of partners, that will vastly reduce your risk of catching and spreading STDs.

You could also change your routine, by only seeing providers for BBHJ or BBBJ for a while. Take a break from FS, and then return after a while to see if you can enjoy it in a safe manner.

To be honest, I think you need to think hard about your motivations on why you do this, why you can't control yourself, and why you continue to do it despite your best intentions.
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Hope burns bright!

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6. "+1 on mistress"
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   It's clear that you must do BBFS, but it's not clear WHY you must do BBFS. Find out first.

If it's to have babies, as 1999 experienced, then maybe you need to have some real babies with your SO, and get your stud on that way. Or give to the sperm bank.

If it's the feeling/sensation, then yeah, get a mistress. Though, it's still risky since your mistress might be fucking around, at least you two can get tested, and you're not making the problem exponentially worse by fucking a LOT of women who are also fucking around a lot themselves.

I almost hired a mistress about 15 years ago. I calculated that I was spending so much money on pussy, I could afford to keep a woman for my own. I interviewed one, her monthly rate was about what I was already spending, but she wouldn't commit to how often we'd be fucking. I sat and calculated it out, and realized that I was getting laid 5-6 times a week paying by the hour, which is what she wanted me to pay her with no guarantees of actually seeing her often, so I said fuck this and didn't do it.

Still, a mistress could give you BB with much lower risk. Do it for yourself and your family.

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7. "Shrinks"
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   I should also mention, I avoid shrinks like the plague.

The reason is, psychiatric/psychological care is one of the few areas where the patient is NOT in control of the treatment or what it will be. With a regular doctor you can shop around, negotiate, get second opinions, and generally accept or refuse care as you need to. With shrinks, as you hint at, you could get committed to an institution or fucked with by the shrink and there's nothing you can do about it.

I stay away from the fuckers. Which is not great, since I'm pretty sure I have depression and should get treated for it, but I just don't trust them, they have no idea what they're doing, the drugs are primitive, brutal, and have nasty side-effects that are often worse than the disorder they're supposed to treat, and I don't really want to be a guinea pig. Plus I don't like the idea of a shrink FORCING me to take meds or undergo treatment, under threat of being committed. NO way, fuck you very much.

Fix this yourself if you can. There are also sex-addiction peer groups that might help if you think you're at that stage. Google around.

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8. "RE: trying to quit"
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   You're certainly not the only one who hates condoms here. Two suggestions for you: First, instead of doing her BB, fuck her for awhile covered, then get a BBBJ to completion. A good BJ girl who knows how to work it can be a very good substitute for BBFS. Nobody ever caught HIV that way. Second, find yourself a low-mileage sugarbaby or two that aren't fucking a bunch of men and do her BBFS. That's what I'm doing and the girl that I've been with for the past 8 months or so has no interest in seeing other men. Minimize the risk, maximize the pleasure; fuck the condoms.

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9. "RE: trying to quit"
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   glfokker, exactly what Dellsnorto said. I understand where you're coming from as this usually happens in the heat of
moment where we are least likely to use our heads. As silly as this may sound, after you start fucking and just
when you want to throw away the rubber, stop for a sec, pinch yourself as hard as you can, and ask yourself loudly,
this is so fucking good, do you want to take the chance of not repeating if you get a disease. Then when you reply
yourself, switch to bbbj with the chic, and if she's good, you'll be in lala land.
The sugarbaby is another good route ie if you have the time and you're able to find the right one. Best of luck.

As in United Nations, Maam.

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10. "RE: trying to quit"
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   Just don't pull it off. Or if you prefer, just don't put one on. You are your own man. You don't need drugs or doctors to control this urge. If could quit smoking after 16 years...you can quit this.

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11. "RE: trying to quit"
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   hey bros,
thanks for the sincere responses. i'm going to session tonight and see what happens. this forum is more helpful than any shrink/therapist i could see. i get more practical advice from bros in here that know what i'm going thru vs. a shrink who only wants me to down some pills. thanks
GL

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13. "RE: trying to quit"
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   LAST EDITED ON 17-Jul-10 AT 11:23 PM (PST)
 
There was that time way back then, where the condomns were way too constrictive that I would ask for the lady to spit in the cap. She would do so and also think it as an erotic request on my part, but it actually gave that extra slippery sensation right from the get-go. Imitation BB. Now I have found a thin condomn with a structured bulbous head and it feels like air suspension during the heat of action. Don't forget to put lubricant inside the cap. Like a slippery frog in her water.

http://www.discountcondomking.com/product-detail.cfm?itemid=536

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14. "RE: trying to quit"
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   Does lube inside the condom really help? I would be afraid of it coming off. I also dont like the loss of sensation but an experienced provider can offset that with good hip action. As others stated, i also like removing the condom after the fs and finish up with a bbbjtc. I will only see a girl who provides bbbj.

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18-Jul-10, 09:00 PM (PST)
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15. "Trying to quit"
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   Agree with the get a mistress/sugarbaby and go bareback. Much safer.

Back in April I got my steady provider to quit and be exclusive with me
for about the same amount I was spending a month on the hobby. It has worked for both of us, and bareback is so much more erotic/pleasurable.

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16. "RE: trying to quit"
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   Nothing is worth getting an STD over.

*Think about your Johnson hurting to the point that you can't even sleep.
*Think about someone shoving a Q-tip in your pee hole.
*Think about lighting your Johnson on fire every time you pee.
*Think about not being able to have sex or jerk off for a month.
*Think about the fear that your Johnson might fall off.

Think about it before you go BBFS and you'll know it's not worth it.

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