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"Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
 
   I am sure most of us here are familiar with the hidden meaning of terms like Greek, Russian, French, etc. But I am just curious, where and how did these come about? For example, was it the Greek who invented anal sex? Or is it because it is a preferred sex act of that particular nationality? Or just someone made it up and no merit it all?

Maybe some historian here could enlighten me. Thanks.

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1. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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If I recall correctly, such titles were given by outside societies. Eg; greeks did not coin the term greek for anal, french did not coin the term french for blowjobs, or french kissing, etc.

I suspect they were usually coined by more prudish societies, like the British, etc. I suspect that in some cases it was intended as a subtle insult.

Of course it would be ridiculous to think that the russians invented tit fucking, or that the greeks invented anal sex, or that the french invented oral sex, etc.

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2. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   This doesn't answer your question but I'm reminded of an old Cold War question: If Russia attacks Turkey from behind, will Greece help?

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8. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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Well played, sir.

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10. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   Which reminds me of that age-old question: How do you separate the men from the boys in the Greek army?

With a crowbar.

(always loved that joke)

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6. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   LAST EDITED ON 07-Aug-10 AT 08:20 PM (PST)
 
>I suspect they were usually coined by more prudish
>societies, like the British, etc. I suspect that in some
>cases it was intended as a subtle insult.
.
Subtle, you say?


>Of course it would be ridiculous to think that the russians
>invented tit fucking, or that the greeks invented anal sex,
>or that the french invented oral sex, etc.
.
Not so.

Tit fucking was developed by the Orthodox monk Fyodor Ivanovich Getchyakokoff in 1052, in Nizhny Novgorod.

Anal sex was invented at sea by the mariner Rectuphilous of Salamis, who was hung like a Trojan horse, somewhere about 830 BC.

And oral sex was perfected by Felicite Fellatieaux, la Grande Duchesse de la Bonne Bouche, in Toulouse, circa 22 AD.


Is there a national name for armpit frottage?

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7. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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"Is there a national name for armpit frottage?"

Arabian?


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9. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   You think so huh.

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4. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   >I am sure most of us here are familiar with the hidden
>meaning of terms like Greek, Russian, French, etc. But I am
>just curious, where and how did these come about? For
>example, was it the Greek who invented anal sex? Or is it
>because it is a preferred sex act of that particular
>nationality? Or just someone made it up and no merit it all?
>Maybe some historian here could enlighten me. Thanks.

I think that the origins of these terms are derived from stereotypes of certain nationalities. The Greeks didn't invent anal sex, but anal sex between men and boys was fairly commonplace in ancient Greece, particularly in temples; consequently, anal sex is referred to as "going Greek".
The French have a reputation as being amorous libertines, so I surmise that a particularly intimate style of kissing was labelled "French kissing".
I had no idea that Russians had any sexual proclivities.

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5. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   LAST EDITED ON 07-Aug-10 AT 03:57 PM (PST)
 
people love to blame others for being slutty


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French - La capote anglais ( English Hat)

I guess the ancient Roman did the same thing to the Greeks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex

later Roman age Greek poetry, anal sex became a common topos, represented as taking place with "eligible" youths: those who had attained the proper age but had not yet become adults. Seducing children into the practice was considered very shameful for the adult, and having such relations with a male who was no longer adolescent was considered more shameful for the young male than for the one mounting him. Greek courtesans, or hetaerae, are said to have frequently practiced heterosexual anal intercourse as a means of preventing pregnancy. The acceptability of anal sex thus varied with the time-period and the location, as Ancient Greece spanned a long time and stretched over three continents and two major seas.

For a male citizen to take the passive (or receptive) role in anal intercourse was condemned in Rome as an act of impudicitia (immodesty or unchastity). Free men, however, frequently took the active role with a young slave, known as a catamite or puer delicatus. In fact the Romans thought of anal sex as something specifically "Greek," although Roman men often availed themselves of their own slaves or others in this way.

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11. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   Thanks to all who has been participating and contributing in this discussion.

I just came across another one that I never heard before - Italian.

Under the RB Clueless, it is defined as "penis rubbing between butt cheeks." Any idea how this came about?

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13. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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As others have noted, some of these terms seem to be quite old. Calling anal, "Greek," for example, might go all the way back to the Romans. "French" for blowjob is also probably pretty old, considering that it is called that in Spanish, German, and English (though I wasn't aware of it being called that in English until I read this thread--I thought "French" was only about kissing).

Other names, I'm guessing, are very new. I never even considered that "penis rubbing between butt cheeks" was something that might merit a special name. How about slapping an erect penis against the face? Does that have a special name? Since it vaguely conjures up the image of a karate move, I'll call it "Japanese."


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12. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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To add to what others have said about blaming outsiders, also consider the various names syphilis had in various countries:

Syphilis had been called the "French disease" in Italy, Poland and Germany, and the "Italian disease" in France. In addition, the Dutch called it the "Spanish disease", the Russians called it the "Polish disease", the Turks called it the "Christian disease" or "Frank disease" (frengi) and the Tahitians called it the "British disease".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis

Aquí se queda la clara...

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16. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   It is better to give than receive.

The Eagle has Spoken.

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14. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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French kissing to the French is actually a Movie Star or Hollywood kiss.

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15. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   I'm also told that lawyers invented DATY through their exclusive club called Cunning Linguists.

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17. "RE: Origin of terms like Greek, Russian, etc."
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   Some years ago, I had the pleasure of traveling for months all over Greece and the Isles. Great women, and many of them prefer anal to avoid pregnancy. Also, they are convinced one cannot get VD that way. And if you just happen to meet a young one, she prefers anal to 'save herself' for future hubby. It's a wonder country once you get away from the larger cities.

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