Thanks for any ideas.

Magnus

However, accept the fact that there are just some women out there that WILL require personal info no matter what - and accept the fact that your will not be able to see them no matter how hot they are.

"Wow, it's really warm in there..."

If you have no self control and must go
forward, here's how I handle introductions
and meeting new Hobby Girls:

1. I keep copies of my Driver's License,
Passport and business card in the car and
just provide the provider these copies when
I meet her for the first time.

2. Over time, collect written references
from providers and also keep these copies
in your car to give to a new provider needing
a reference.

3. Do something that Law Enforcement would
never do: i.e. jerk off and shoot it all over
your face, take a picture and give to the
provider.

All three of these have worked well for me over
many years.

Good Luck.

A couple of other thoughts:

Many girls who say they require references really don't. I think they put it in the ads to weed out certain guys, or because they believe top providers should. You can usually tell by the language, if they kind of gloss over it in the ad many times they won't even ask. Of if these girls do ask, if you state your situtation they might waive the rule. But really, you don't even have to go there with all the girls that don't require any.

I usually ask via email. Then I keep the reply and forward that to the provider. That way, the provider can check on it more easily, but more than likely, the email should be enough for the reference so she doesn't have to do any work.

Many times the Ad says screening "yes" or "sometimes" and nothing of the sort is required in the first place. More like peer pressure from the others who also get nasty inboxes if they charge less and happen to be in the same area claiming they are driving the price down. I see it all the time from girls I see often and know well.

In regards to my mention of references as a management tool, it works pretty much like this --- What kind of girls are you giving as a reference, do they know your handle and if you don't always give glowing 10's claiming she is an absolute dreamboat, slight chance your reference is going to be any good in the first place. Why should she take a chance of getting a poor (yet honest) review? I give far closer scrutiny, if remotely interested in the first place, to reviews of girls who truly DO require references, it's amazing how they all seem to have high scores from guys who ALWAYS give high scores .

What if you write a review and it's a 6 or lower? Think she is going to be cool letting you use her as a reference? Think again. Is she one of the long time Hookers or somewhat of a newbie who has management? Think the girl you want to see will accept it?

This is supposed to be fun, easy to set up, and YOU are the customer. I agree completely with some others who have stated about some Men being pussy whipped by all this reference nonsense, but if someone wants any information about them out there and available or willing to jump through any hoops, that's totally up to them.

Of particular note, or humor really, is when you see some guys (or the girls with their "male" handles) chime in and say that they only see referenced girls since it shows that they care about their safety. Pimps, LE, and others can just as easily put up a "references required" in their ad. Others claim, erroneously, that it makes a girl much more comfortable when first meeting.

Some will claim that offering a reference makes the girl less nervous and/or gives you a more and better relaxed time. I'm not anyone special or better than anyone else and I've never detected the slightest nervousness from a Hooker when first meeting her. Just about anyone can be sized up (so to speak) in the first couple minutes and I'm having just as great a time as those claiming the referenced Hookers are more relaxed for some reason.