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"'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
 
  
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSTRE67H61Q20100819


"Cougar" trend of women chasing younger men a myth
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By Stephen Addison

LONDON (Reuters Life!) - Madonna and Demi Moore may be fuelling talk of a growing trend for older women on the prowl for younger men but a study on Wednesday said the phenomenon of the "cougar" is a myth, confined to the world of celebrities.

The study of online dating, by the University of Wales Institute, Cardiff (UWIC), found men and women are still rather traditional when it comes to searching for their ideal partner.

Women generally seek an older and, therefore hopefully, wealthier man, according to the UWIC study.

Men, on the other hand, desire a young and attractive female, and often prefer a much younger partner as they themselves age.

The findings, published in the journal Evolution and Human Behavior, disputes the "cougar" phenomenon popularized in TV shows and movies like "Cougar Town" starring Courteney Cox and "Sex and the City" of women aged over 40 seeking "cubs."

Psychologist Dr Michael Dunn of UWIC's Cardiff School of Health Sciences led the study which involved analysing the age preferences of 22,000 men and women using online dating sites across 14 countries and two religious groups.

"A critically important consideration for advertisers on online dating sites appears to be the age of a potential partner," Dunn said in a statement.

He said it was a commonly held assumption that with the advent of female financial independence, women were now free to target men of any age group, as securing financial security from older, wealthier males was no longer a priority.

WOMEN NOT SEEKING "CUBS"

"The transference of female desire from relatively older men to relatively younger men, it has been argued, is reflected by the growth of the toy boy phenomenon," he said.

"The results of our research challenges these assumptions. Although there was some cultural variation in extremes, the results showed clearly that women across all age groups and cultures, targeted males either their own age or older."

Dunn said a strikingly different pattern of age preferences was evident in men.

Younger men, aged 20 to 25, either targeted females their own age or marginally younger.

But as males aged, they clearly expressed a preference for women increasingly younger than themselves, with this pattern also being cross-culturally consistent.

"These findings are clearly supportive of evolutionary theory," Dunn added. "A wide variety of evidence has shown that women, when considering a potential long-term partner, focus more than males on cues indicative of wealth and status and these logically accumulate with age.

"Males conversely focus more intently on physical attractiveness cues and these are clearly correlated with the years of maximum fertility."

A UWIC release added: "Madonna and Demi Moore are said to be influencing a whole new generation of 'cougar' women who see much younger men as their goal when looking for a long-term partner.

"But this notion of the 'toy-boy' phenomenon is dispelled as a myth which only exists in the world of celebrity rather than reflecting real life."

The countries involved in the survey were Australia, Brazil, Britain, Canada, China, Greece, Germany, Indonesia, Japan, Kenya, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, and Ukraine.

(Reporting by Stephen Addison; Editing by Belinda Goldsmith)

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1. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   I heard that there were japanese women going to Thailand for sex vacations with african gigolos and these were girls 18-29. I find that difficult to believe that it is a trend. Maybe a few girls here and there, just as cougars are doing.

The article makes the assumption that cougars are looking for long term relations with younger men. I doubt that they are looking for anything more than a fuck. And how would a study get women to be honest about that?

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2. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-561156/Sun-sand-sex-stupidity-Why-thousands-middle-aged-women-obsessed-holiday-gigolos.html

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3. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   I could see older women doing this but the 18-29 year old japanese girls going to Thailand to screw african gigolos I still find hard to believe. They must be grotesquely ugly if they can't get laid at that age.

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6. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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True. A sex aid shop owner friend told me her best selling dildo among cougars in France are the black 8 inchers. I believe the cougars are out there due to the economic growth among women combine with divorce rate. I've seen many at lezzie clubs (Lexington) or the basement bar of AsiaSF, RubySkye's. They like to start out anonimously.

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4. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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Its not a myth; I'm 62; recently, this woman hit on me, she was so old, she was a saber toothed tiger.

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18. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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Or a T-Rex? Even though she didn't have any teeth, she's still a meat eater... LOL

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5. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   LAST EDITED ON 20-Aug-10 AT 02:51 AM (PST)
 
>>The countries involved in the survey were Australia, Brazil, Britain,
>>Canada, China, Greece, Germany, Indonesia, Japan, Kenya, Mexico,
>>Russia, South Africa, and Ukraine.

Where is USA on this list?
Where did the cougar trend start?
**Also doesn't note that a lot of women are heading not only to LOS for their hot f_cks, but to DR, Spain, MX, and several other places -- including some place in Africa that is the female version of Pattaya (for men). If she is hot and older and in her sexual prime, why should she have to settle for some of us blubbery humps who can't work it.

Would the statistics skew if the reporting added the countries of France, Italy, Spain and USA? (Each country with a powerful/passionate women demographic and with the exception of US, much more liberal with sexual 'expression'.)

Summation: This article is crap.
Cougars exist and the trend will continue as more women seek the same empowerment as their powerful male colleagues and counterparts.
Yes the majority of people want relationships. What does that have to do with Cougars??? (or celebrities)
Certainly not all cougars are celebrities. One walk through Bing Crosby's in Walnut Creek will answer that.
Increasingly, for many women, sex is not the same thing as a relationship and I find nothing wrong with it.

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7. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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If you wish upon a star ...

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8. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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Not much of a study.

The authors don't consider the possibility that their decision to study women using dating web sites may introduce selection bias.

They also don't say anything about taking a baseline measurement. And exactly how would they measure such a baseline? Do they have access to dating web site ads from 10 years ago? How about personals ads from 20 years ago, before there even WERE dating web sites?

I would think that census data on marriages between people of widely-differing age would be a FAR more interesting source for a study. No, it wouldn't tell you about the dating scene. But the data would be a lot harder than this dating web site study.

I happen to be married to a woman who is more than 10 years my senior. We've been together for years and years before Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore met. I didn't have any of the stereotypical ideas about learning something about sex from an older woman... in fact, despite me being her second husband, I ended up showing her rather more than she showed me. She was just someone whose conversation I enjoyed, and it developed into something more, and we both had the courage to say yes to it.

I still love her, even though I'm here on RB. I thought that love would conquer what my wife herself describes as "old-lady crankiness," but it's apparent now that it doesn't, not always.

Looking back over all the people I've known well, surprisingly few of the older people I know have reached retirement in good emotional health, even when they are financially comfortable. Life gets you down, I suppose. I hope, hope, HOPE that "old-man crankiness" is not an inevitable part of my future.

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9. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   Turned out they have been hanging out in Berkeley...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/31/BAV41F6FIP.DTL&tsp=1

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10. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   Excuse me kind sir, but those are Mountain Lions, the subject here are California Cougars. And yes they are real! They are all over Marin County...late 40's to fifties with high mileage re-treads. That's why there are so many face lift doctors per capita in the County. One for every ten Cougars.

The Eagle has spoken!

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11. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   Thanks for the correction. I guess my attempt at wordplay fell flat. Oh well...

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12. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   How stupid is this article, studying online dating sites to study cougar trends, only to tell us what we already know about dating in general. I've got news for them. Cougars are real. They hang out in cougar bars where the young guys who go for that can find them. There is such a bar in the town where I live. It is frequented by affluent divorced women. They are are looking for a one night stand, from what I hear. You can easily spot the cougars. They are in their 40's and 50's but dress as if they are in their 20's. Many have obviously had face lifts and boob jobs. If that didn't give it away, their scanning of the crowd and eyeing the guys does.

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13. "RE: Agreed - Cougars are real"
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As Mike said, they're real. I have a freind who's in her 40's, but she looks better than most 20-year olds and is DDG. Every few weeks she gets her 'cougar' mood, goes out to a club, picks up a guy half her age, does him, and then dumps him by the next morning. That's real enough for me.

I was in New York City last month and there was a 'Cougar Night' at a Manhatten club. It was very well attended by a lot of very hot women. As far as I could tell, the trend is alive and well.

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14. "RE: Agreed - Cougars are real"
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   Describe what she looks like and her background, HungTiteWun. If she's asian, that'd make sense since alot of them age well.
I know from personal experience that enough older women do indeed like younger men to some degree at least.

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15. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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I spent most of my early and mid-twenties being chased by women who all seemed to be 34 and recently divorced. The sex was great, but every one of them would have laughed at the idea of me being marriage material back then.

The UWIC data is probably valid, but the conclusion is not. Being a cougar has nothing to do with finding a life partner. It's one thing to be a 40-something woman who wants to have a hot Saturday night with a young buck, and quite another to want to settle down with that person.

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16. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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LAST EDITED ON 07-Sep-10 AT 00:09 AM (PST)
 
It's one thing for those of us with nothing better to do then to hang out on boards like this and post about things like this, it's another to actually pay someone to write this story. Someone actually paid Mr. Stephen Addison write this completely pointless irrelevant story. Not only did somone with more money then sense pay this guy for this story, but Mr. Stephen Addison apparently has such low self esteem as a journalist...he actually wrote the fucking thing!


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17. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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Clearly the researchers missed the point of female cougars.

A criteria of their research was "searching for their ideal partner." That's NOT an american female cougar and I had plenty in my mid teens to late twenties. All were hot, able, and just wanted to fuck on occasions. There was NO wish or desire on their parts for a "relationship", except to remain in touch enough, for the next all-night romp.

Personally, for most of them, I felt it was a kind of control issue, in that they could control their own sexuality and be like men too. More in control and dominant of their own sexuality. A sort of coming of age for them. Some were single/divorced and some involved. Those that were already involved, once they hit a certain age, had no problem fucking around, but was a hell of a lot better at hiding it and had their SOs totally fucking snowed.

I found white, hispanic and asian women weren't any different, except in their approach and caution. They were all attainable. Even those you thought would never do it.

I was thankful for their education in many ways.

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19. "'Cougar' trend maybe a myth, but cougars are out there"
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   Actually I believe many of us know a few in real life. (I do)

The problems with cougars are that there's NO future in any of their "relationships." They have many many one night stands but eventually they are bound to be lonely (& sad) when they can't score young studs anymore while most don't know how to keep a lasting relationship with an "older" man.

Sad but true.

Happily ever after, still!

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20. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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I am positive Cougars chasing younger men is NOT a myth, cause I know one. She has been doing it for 10 years, 5 of which she has documented in a soon to be published book by Tashen America Press.

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21. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   I sort of wish I knew a few of those cougars when I was a kid : )

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22. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   Doesn't anyone remember the movie "Alfie" starring Michael Caine? It was 1966. Shelly Winters was the cougar. There have always been women who wanted to keep their youth by bedding younger men. In the seventies in NYC I saw a woman dressed too young snapping her fingers to some rock tune on the radio. She was in her fifties or sixties. She was such an extreme character I still remember her though she was not good looking enough to land any cub.

Anyway see "Alfie" if you haven't. I won't spoil the ending but it's relevant.

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23. "RE: 'Cougar' trend of women chasing younger men a myth"
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   How bout The Graduate with Anne Bancroft and Duston Hoffman? Great movie!

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