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"NGU from provider (bbbj)"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 29-May-10 AT 07:14 PM (PST)
 
Hi. I know that many people will read this post with skeptism but I am not trying to slander anyone. I took a risk and am paying for the consequence. The fault lies with me and I accept that.

A little over 3 weeks ago I got a bbbj and had protected sex with a provider in the South Bay. A week ago I started having burning when peeing and a very mild clear discharge. I do not hobby often (maybe once every 3 months) nor do I have a girlfriend so I know without a doubt that whatever happened stemmed from this encounter. I went to the doc and all the basic tests (Gonn, Chlamydia, HIV, Herpes, Syphillis, Hep) came out negative. The doc gave me meds for G and C based on the symptoms at testing time and the symptoms are subsiding so it was some type of bacterial infection. I took another G and C test at a clinic which also came out negative (but I'd already took the meds the day before from the first doc). Since I was having symptoms the doc said it was NGU.

My thing is I read these boards all the time (but never post) and alot of hobbiest get bbbjs frm one provider then another the next week and so forth. As much as I don't want to throw anybody (provider) under the bus I think it's pretty fucked up that she is passing around diseases (however she may not know). Should I just keep quiet and let it ride? I know if I disclose it I'll be looked at as some hater, or wanna be pimp playing games trying to ruin somebody's business but this is real and people are at risk.

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1. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   >Since I was having symptoms the doc said it was NGU.

I must be clueless since I don't have a clue what NGU stands for. I'd better look it up, and I have been mongering for over 15 years. I must have been one lucky dude.

>Should I just keep quiet and let it ride?

No, I think it is good that you are mentioning it. I am definitely pleased to be aware of it. You were right not to mention the name. Interested folks can send you a PM I suppose.

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2. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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Non-gonococcal urethritis (NGU) is an inflammation of the urethra which is not caused by gonorrheal infection.

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15. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   It used to be called"non specific urethritis"and it's not always passed on especially from a blow job, it can be from a number of things including constant masturbation.

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16. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   >It used to be called"non specific urethritis"and it's not
>always passed on especially from a blow job, it can be from
>a number of things including constant masturbation.

No. It cannot and doesn't result from masturbation.

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19. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   I disagree, whenever I masturbate I get a white discharge that feels fucking great..

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20. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   >I disagree, whenever I masturbate I get a white discharge


Perhaps you do, but that is not secondary to inflammation, thus it is not urethritis or any ".... itis".

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22. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   Perhaps you do, but that is not secondary to inflammation, thus it is not urethritis or any ".... itis".
It could be penisitis,inflammation of the penis

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3. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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>A little over 3 weeks ago I got a bbbj and had protected sex
>with a provider in the South Bay. A week ago I started
>having burning when peeing and a very mild clear discharge.
>I do not hobby often (maybe once every 3 months) nor do I
>have a girlfriend so I know without a doubt that whatever
>happened stemmed from this encounter.


No. Absolutely not without a doubt. Just because you had a contact a week prior does not necessarily mean that there was a contagion.

> I went to the doc and
>all the basic tests (Gonn, Chlamydia, HIV, Herpes,
>Syphillis, Hep) came out negative.


Which type of tests were used for each ? Was a gram stain done ? A saline wet mount prep (to look at the discharge under the microscope) ? Tests have false negative rates, that is one can be infected and the offending bug fails to grow and be identified in the laboratory.


>The doc gave me meds for
>G and C based on the symptoms at testing time and the
>symptoms are subsiding so it was some type of bacterial
>infection.

Nope.... wrong again. Just because one ingests a medication and the symptoms improve does not necessarily mean the medication had anything to do with that improvement. Time heals many wounds,


> I took another G and C test at a clinic which
>also came out negative (but I'd already took the meds the
>day before from the first doc). Since I was having symptoms
>the doc said it was NGU.


If the test was negative before the meds, it certainly would be negative at a later stage and while on meds.

>
>My thing is I read these boards all the time (but never
>post) and alot of hobbiest get bbbjs frm one provider then
>another the next week and so forth. As much as I don't want
>to throw anybody (provider) under the bus I think it's
>pretty fucked up that she is passing around diseases


One cannot state with reasonably certainty that she is doing so.


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4. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   >One cannot state with reasonably certainty that she is doing so.

And how is that?

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7. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   >>One cannot state with reasonably certainty that she is doing so.
>
>And how is that?


It is unknown whether or not she was carrying a pathogen.


Also of note, the sexual act was oral (not vaginal or anal), the incubation period was long, his lab tests (of unknown type and unknown reliability) were negative, his response to antibiotic therapy was not dramatic, he didn't report having his prostate checked (an infection which can occur independently of sexual contacts) and so forth.

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5. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   The contact was 3 weeks prior not 1.
I got 2 separate G and C test done from 2 different docs (urine samples) both came back negative.

>Nope.... wrong again. Just because one ingests a medication and the >symptoms improve does not necessarily mean the medication had >anything to do with that improvement. Time heals many wounds,

If you were fucked up and the doc gave you meds would you say "oh no I'll just wait it out and see if time heals me"? I took the meds and the symptoms started subsiding (they are still not totally gone). Zithromax kills many bacteria infections, not just C only. Logic tells me the meds helped. It may tell you something else but I'll stick with mine.

I'm not trying to be an asshole here I am just saying what happened to me. I'm not 100% faulting the provider because I was a willing participant. We are all taking risks here, but I believe most of us would like to minimize them as much as possible.
You are free to believe or disbelieve me. I would have hated to slept with her and then slept with my gf or wife (if I had one). You know what I'm saying?


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6. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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>I'm not trying to be an asshole here I am just saying what
>happened to me. I'm not 100% faulting the provider because I
>was a willing participant. We are all taking risks here, but
>I believe most of us would like to minimize them as much as
>possible.
>You are free to believe or disbelieve me. I would have hated
>to slept with her and then slept with my gf or wife (if I
>had one). You know what I'm saying?

Okay, I will be an asshole then.

First MarcusWelby is not just being a jerk. He is technically correct on every point. You got an infection, and you assumed it was from the BBBJ or BBFS. While that is a reasonable guess, it is not definitive. You should have called the provider and informed her of your results, and encouraged her to get tested also. IF she also has an infection, then she is the likeliest source of YOUR infection.

There are other possible routes of infection. I am still unsure about the timing. If you developed symptoms within a week, it is more likely that the girl was the source. If it was longer then other routes of infection become more probable.

There are risks in this hobby. NGU is obnoxious, but it is very treatable. Even if she is willing to BB, use a condom. It is not like she had a gun to your head. This is especially true with providers. Even if they are 'clean', you have no idea who they were with. And if they are going BB with you, they are going BB with others.

Having said all this, the only time I picked up something was from a civilian!

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8. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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Academically and medically speaking, contrary to popular belief, the mouth is one the filthiest openings in the human anatomy. Rinsing with strong mouthwash such as Listerine whitening for 15 seconds does help to reduce the presence of bacteria and possibly viruses for a short time and make sure the head is tilted toward the back to expose the viruses such as HPV that live in the back of the mouth. Also drinking Cranberry juice (100%) or reputable Cranberry capsules helps to keep UT clear.

If you insist on getting BBBJ as otherwise you are not getting your money's worth, then make sure the RA rinses as I described above by watching you doing it accordingly. Please note that it is NOT a Guarantee and despite what you might have heard, there is no such thing as a safe BBBJ when it comes to this Hobby.

Wearing a good quality Condom is the only sure thing. However as we have seen many time, the number one rule of the universe still holds; when the Little Head is in-charge, you either go blind, deaf or both.

I am sure Dr. Welby will correct me if I have mis-stated.

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9. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   Professor, not a correction, but a clarification. Yes, the human mouth is bacteria-laden, with saliva containing over 90,000,000 organisms per cc with multiple species. Ten to twenty percent of human bites become infected. But a BBBJ is different from a human bite, as with a proper BBBJ, no biting or abrasions should occur.

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10. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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Thanks for the clarification Dr. In complete agreement except the operating word here is "proper" BBBJ. I am not sure if it is safe to assume that the BBBJ you are about to receive will be a proper one unless it is too late so to speak.

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11. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   >Rinsing with strong mouthwash such as Listerine
>whitening for 15 seconds does help to reduce the presence of ...

while increasing the chance of oral cancer...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw-act/mouthwash-linked-to-cancer/story-e6freuzi-1111118530255



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12. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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With all do respect to Redball who is preventing me to go to bed:

1) There are lots of things that we do, consume and breath every day that will impact our health one way or the other. This is no different.

2) I am 57 years old and have being using Listerine since it came on the market based on my dentist's recommendation few decades ago. I do not smoke, drink and use drugs. I have perfect oral and physical health except degenerated disks in my lower back as the result of my athletics background. As an Intelligent Hobbiest, I am willing to take the chance considering the alternatives. I always walk if the RA does not perform the requested oral cleansing procedure with Listerine ( I bring my own to the session BTW) as I outlined earlier.

3) I will be grateful if you can share with us any technique that you may deploy to further decrease the oral transmission of STDs unless you practice no mouth to mouth or mouth to "down there" touching . I will certainly consider it if there are scientific evidence to its effectiveness and its overall risks and side effects.

Beat Regards,

Professor Maxxx


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13. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   >With all do respect to Redball who is preventing me to go to
>bed:

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/dorespect.html

Hope that didn't wake ya.


>1) There are lots of things that we do, consume and breath
>every day that will impact our health one way or the other.
>This is no different.


>2) I am 57 years old and have being using Listerine since it
>came on the market based on my dentist's recommendation few
>decades ago.

Kinda making my point there professor. The recommendation to not use Listerine or other alcohol containing mouthwashes is based on fairly recent research and offered to me a few months ago from my (better informed?) dentist.

Also, I'm betting your dentist didn't recommend Listerine as a way to mitigate the oral transmission of STDs.


>I do not smoke, drink and use drugs.

Again, you're supporting the contention of the cited article; "But the effects of mouthwash were worst in smokers, who had a nine-fold increased risk of cancers of the oral cavity, pharynx and larynx."


>As an Intelligent Hobbiest[sic], I am willing to take the chance
>considering the alternatives.

Not willing?


>3) I will be grateful if you can share...

http://store.breathrx.com/rinse.php
http://www.dentist.net/act-total-care-mouthwash.asp (Fresh Mint only)

But, it all might be neither here nor there...

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Prevention/show/248438


>Beat Regards,

I didn't know you cared.

In any case, I hope the exercise was of value.



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14. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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Point is well taken Red. It teaches me not to debate with the great one at the time of experiencing Dependable Irrationality

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17. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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For those that wanna learn more:

http://my.clevelandclinic.org/disorders/nongonococcal_urethritis/hic_nongonococcal__urethritis_ngu_in_men.aspx

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18. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   Regarding use of mouthwash it might be worth bringing your own since many providers dilute theirs (I assume to save money) to the point of rendering it ineffective.

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24. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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Providers DILUTE MOUTHWASH to SAVE MONEY?!

I've got 8 bottles of CVS 27% alcohol mouthwash underneath the bathroom counter of my massage studio and a half-full bottle on the counter with little paper cups and a tray of gum right next to it.

UGH...I can't imagine DILUTING mouthwash!

That's about as WRONG as fishing condoms out of the trash, rinsing them out and using them over again.

But then a lot of the (everything covered-no-kissing FS) crowd - don't understand why I'm I'm not FS but do what I do either.

It's always Summer at my place! xoxo

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21. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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I have had so many bbbj's it's not even funny, and I haven't caught anything. I make sure to wash up before and after. The risk of getting something from unprotected oral fun is pretty low, and if you are clean, it's even lower.

Since you did not test positive for a STD, I wouldn't call out the provider you suspect. Who knows what it is, but you were tested twice and they found nothing.

BTW, when you get tested, do they shove a swab up your pee hole, like on Entourage?

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23. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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I am the Provider he is referring to. And I am so sure of my STD negative status that I am coming out here and putting myself in front of the firing squad lol. I am a trained medical assistant (not currently engaged in that profession) & I tried to calm him & have him return to the DR for tests instead of self diagnosing.
So...the inconsistincies puzzle me....

-you said you "read it online it must have been NGU (oh now the DR told you so?)

-You told me you "gave it to your GF" & were "so scared you would lose her because of this!!"(Oh now you are saying you didn't have one?)

-You made me feel awful & scared for my own health for 30 min until you FINALLY said it was all SELF DIAGNOSED & that our session was a BJ! (NOT A BBBJ BTW I have done that on occasion, but I sure remember who & who NOT with!
)
Now once he said it was a BJ I knew he was over reacting. But I was STILL NICE & empathetic even offering to go with him to the DR & get TESTED AT THE SAME TIME!!! to further alleviate any concerns ( I got a rude response to that suggestion & promptly hung up. I had spent almost an hour trying to calm the fears of a scared man so I thought...reality I was feeding a little boys attention seeking tantrum)

He promised to go to DR that day.
-------3 weeks later I still have not heard from him.

I have heart problems to where I am waiting for a donation of(not a WHOLE heart lol) but in order to stay on the donation list I am required to be tested for a variety of things, also STDs every month. Not cheap either. But I understand, they don't wish to waste their time and health tissue on a sick person or alternately can treat something if detected.
I have never tested positive for ANYthing my whole life except when I was 16 I had trichomoniasis which is common & was easily treated.

Anyhow, I just am angry he can come post here but can't call me back to tell me what his dr said. I knew though it was a bunch of bs and his dr must have told him to quit self diagnosing when he failed to call because FOR SURE if he tested positive for something he WOULD raise hell.

Anyhow its all a bunch of lies either way because if he has a bladder infection then its not an NGU where he told me he had gone to the dr an tested pos for a UTI (bladder infection) NGU is a whole different thing -See the first link..http://www.ewashtenaw.org/government/departments/public_health/phcontent/cd_fact_sheets/ngu.pdf
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Urology/UTI-from-oral-sex/show/709331

Grow some Balls and tell the truth.
If I can come on here in front of everyone & tell the truth risking ppl thinking I'm carrying a disease, then you can sure tell the truth too. Shame on ypou for scaring a girl with all this nonsense then not even calling to inform her of the results.
Shame-on-you!

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25. "RE: NGU from provider (bbbj)"
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   This is some scary shit

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