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"Pain management / Opioids"
 
Does anyone else have chronic pain that requires the use of opioids? I have 2 herniated discs and have been taking hydrocodone (vicodin) for years. I have built up a tolerance so it was no longer effective. My doc is having me try some different meds but have not found one that works well with few side effects. Tried methadone and am now taking opana. I still work so I need to be able to function during the day. Any advice or shared experiences would be appreciated. Inbox if you don't want to share on the board. Thanks!

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1. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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   Be careful using those opiates, they are very addicting and are a bitch to quit. Sounds like you are well aware of it. I have a really good friend who has a bad back and takes Vicodine and some other opiate that is even more powerful. He has been taking them for 15 years. He has tried to quit a few times, but he always goes back.

Recently, he had a procedure done at Kaiser in Concord, and it took very little time. They stuck him with a few syringes and relieved the pressure...I am not 100% sure of how its done, but the results were so good, he does't need the pills anymore for pain.

He needs them for his addiction. He is in real pain when he tries to quit, as that drug gets squeezed out of his body.

On a side note, when the doctors started only prescribing him 100 pills a month, he would improvise when he ran out the last week or two of the month. He would go into Real Estate Open houses, ask to use the bathroom, and snag vicodine out of their medicine cabinet....lol

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2. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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   I was in rehab with a lady who dressed the part of a real estate salesman only to do the same thing in hopes of finding Vicodin..I quit a 25 a day Vicodin habit, the secret is to do it all at once(It's no picnic but it's doable) and forget about weening down it DOESN'T WORK!!

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3. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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   I know you've probably heard it before, and I don't mean to be uncompassionate, but long term use of opiates is an incredible nightmare to be avoided at all cost.

Glad to hear tht you realize they are "no longer effective". That is the bottom line - they just don't work long term - period. Acute and chronic pain are 2 completely different entities. If you take the path of, I've developed a tolerance to the usual present/dosage and just need to take a bigger dose, you will eventually have your entire brain and body slowly and steadily re-wired and won't even be aware of it until it's too late.

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4. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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With all your might,step away if you can.It gets real deep real fast.

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5. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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   Doxepin...

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Shannon_doah Shannon_doah rating
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6. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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   I can tell you that as time progresses and you continue taking opiates the addiction and your dependance for them grows worse.
I have degenerate disk disease and at first the doctors started me off on Vicodin. Then as time went on and my condittion worsened the doctor started giving me various types or opiates. Eventually I ended up being prescribed Oxicontin, the lowest dose at first 10 mg. then gradually increasing to the strongest 80 mg. after taking this medication for a couple years I was totally addicted and looked for ways to take more and more. I became a person I no longer recognized in the mirror. Thankfully I put myself in a detox program which got me off the Oxicontin but I still had the back problem and in extreme pain all the time.
I then began researching alternative pain management and discovered a non surgical proceedure that many doctors were now seeking for their own back pain since pain medicine cannot be used while working. The treatment is called "decompression therapy" and is what I consider a life saver for me. This machine you are strapped into and it literally pulls your spine apart for a few seconds then releases, this is done in 30 minute sessions for a period of a couple months. After I went through treatment it took a few months before I saw a dramatic difference in my pain level. It has now been 9 years since my treatment and I have not used pain kilers since and remain pain free. There are times when I do a lot of lifting heavy objects my back will hurt a little but that is normal. Check out the research on it and see for yourself. I hope this helps!

http://www.americanspinal.com/

Shannon

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7. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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   You are one bad ass girl, I respect the hell out of that..

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8. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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In early 2010, I received 32 treatment sessions of Active Spinal Decompression at a D.C office on DRX9000 machine to treat two herniated disks (L3 and L4) in my lower back.

I can not conclusively state that it helped me since I was doing other exercises such as yoga, core workout, etc. I was not over weight then or now and have otherwise very healthy muscular/skeletal structure. At the same time, I did not experience any adverse effect either.

There are lots of testimonial about the effectiveness of this type of treatment and at the same time, it is controversial. Furthermore, not everyone is qualified.

Inbox me if you need additional info.

Professor Maxxx

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9. "True Pain Management"
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   I've been a Pt of a Chronic pain clinic. There things they teach, like taking Vicodin is very bad, why is it is like a roller coaster, it is quick acting, but not long lasting. I tried methadone too, it caused massive anxiety problems, Opana had negative side effects too.
For me morphine extened release works, I had it after surgeries and it works well. The thing is to keep it at a constant level in your system, so you are at a constant level of releif. I am not pain free
that is a myth for us, but I'm pretty close to what I call pain neutral. They teach relaxing breathing, meditation and other things these all help, however there is still a real need for medication then use it.

Go see an expert in pain management, a chronic pain clinic, get on an adjusted dose of LONG acting meds, the other thing offered to me was the Fentynal Patch, many people call it a morphine patch, it's not, it is Fentynal in a slow release patch that lasts a few days.

Tell them what's working & what's not, if you don't like the way it makes you feel, stop it and force them to give you something different.

One last thing, get up and walk every hour or 2, exercise, it helps as little as 20 minutes a day on a treadmill will help you...THX

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10. "RE: Pain management / Opioids"
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   Holy shit - reading this it sounds like I could be fucked. I have three herniated discs in my low back and problems with my neck. I've been seeing a back and spine specialist and they had me sign a pain management agreement when I first started seeing them. I am on some pretty strong opiates (percocet for starters). I've also got chronic pain in other locations but it may be due to compensating for my back.

I'm not taking what you are taking Eatspink but based on the response, maybe it's a good thing I'm not at that stage yet (and you are right, trying to function during the day while fighting off the pain is really draining).

Thanks everyone for your two cents on the matter. Sounds like damned if I do and damned if I don't. Hell, I might as well head to Thunder Valley or Cache Creek with these kinds of odds.

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