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"Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
 
   From reading threads on this board, I am led to believe (but not definitively) that if I can have a high level of testosterone naturally or with medical enhancement such as pill, injection or jell, I will have a powerful libido and a strong come.
I took the first step by taking a testosterone test, with a result of 3.5 compared to the norm of >1.5 according to the lab test. I also have normal libido and ejaculation but would like to enhance them when I take the next sex tour to Thailand, in other words, I would like to pursue the testosterone Holy Grail.

Therefore, please educate me with answers to these questions:

1. If my testosterone test is normal, should I just leave myself alone, i.e., don't fix what is not broken?

2. Does higher testosterone level really helps libido and ejaculation performance?

3. What are the proven testosterone treatments and risks?

CR

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1. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
In response to message #0
 
   You're testosterone levels are normal for a middle aged man, if you want to feel your age then don't take synthetic test..If you want to feel younger, have better sex, workouts, less fat and more muscle, then take some test(osterone)..20-30 years from now, many men will be doing it but right now the Gov't has instilled steroid paranoia like the days of refer madness..I take 1/2 cc twice a week from a local pharmacy prescribed by a doctor and my Levels were higher than yours..Go for it is my advice, I hope this helped.

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2. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-Mar-12 AT 08:49 PM (PST)
 
I agree with Ron.

I just want to add that I would recommend injectable testosterone over the other choices. It's much cheaper and much more effective.
The only risk I know of is a higher chance of prostate cancer. Just get it checked once a year or so. Its hard to know what's true. When I first started using it my Dr. told hme it would make me infertile. That was 6 knock ups ago...
Your libido will be noticeably enhanced.

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3. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   I agree, the most effective way which also happens to be the most cost effective is injections.

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4. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   Thanks guys. I am inclined to go for it. What is the best way? Just go to my Kaiser family doctor and say, give me some testosterone because I want to feel great? Or do I find some other doctor, in which case, how?

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5. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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LAST EDITED ON 29-Mar-12 AT 01:31 AM (PST)
 
1. Unless you have been medically diagnosed with abnormally low "T", do not resort to force higher level of IT through injections or taking synthetic hormones. Discuss your Up-the-T plan(s) with your doctor and listen to his or her advise and feedback.

2. A strong libido is the direct result of being in peak physical and mental conditioning at any age. It requires sweat-dripping hard workouts in the gym (cardio and weight lifting), consuming balanced, healthy and nutritional diet and having a sound, confident and realistic mind. This is based on fundamentals of common sense.

3. Shortcuts have consequences. Before taking them, look at yourself in the mirror and ask , "Do you feel Lucky, Punk?" and answer with your Big Head.


The rest up to you!

Professor Maxxx

DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC?

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7. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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Agree with the Prof on all accounts.

Here's a thought - if all men were to live significantly longer, 100% of them would eventually develop prostate cancer. Why? Because this type of cancer "feeds" off of testosterone. High testosterone levels are associated with a higher risk of development of this cancer.

Cheaper safer route - bring porn, watch porn (but don't ejaculate while watching obviously) prior to going out. Your libido and strength of ejaculation will be higher.

Have fun

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13. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
In response to message #5
 
>1. Unless you have been medically diagnosed with abnormally
>low "T", do not resort to force higher level of IT through
>injections or taking synthetic hormones. Discuss your
>Up-the-T plan(s) with your doctor and listen to his or her
>advise and feedback.
>
>2. A strong libido is the direct result of being in peak
>physical and mental conditioning at any age. It requires
>sweat-dripping hard workouts in the gym (cardio and weight
>lifting), consuming balanced, healthy and nutritional diet
>and having a sound, confident and realistic mind. This is
>based on fundamentals of common sense.
>
>3. Shortcuts have consequences. Before taking them, look at
>yourself in the mirror and ask , "Do you feel Lucky, Punk?"
>and answer with your Big Head.
>
>
>The rest up to you!
>
>Professor Maxxx
>
>DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC?


This is solid advise

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6. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-Mar-12 AT 06:10 AM (PST)
 
Thanks to Ron and Bullets for sharing their experiences with T. If you guys don't mind me asking what what was your target for levels of T in your systems.

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8. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   I'm guessing our experiences are quite difference. I am naturally below 200 and attempt to get above 500 via injections.

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9. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   There is a HUGE difference between what a bodybuilder takes and what someone like myself does..I've known bodybuilders/power lifters who stack 3-4 cc's of Test a week with Anadrol or Winstrol V or some other Steroid, that will give you dangerously high levels of T..My goal is to bring my levels from those of a normal 55 year old, to those of a normal 30 year old..I work out 6 days a week and I feel I need a boost..No paranoia and if there's a risk it's minimal and to me at least worth taking..I'm not trying to convince anyone to do it or not, it's just my experience.

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10. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   A few months ago I decided to do two new things. One was trying out generic viagra. I was very happy with generics, both their prices and effectiveness and actually less side effect.

The other new thing I was looking into was testosterone. Thanks to all the great posts I have learned a lot. To the Professor, after reading this thread when I look into the mirror I see a jerk who should thank the Lord for still having fun instead of chasing the Holy Grail. As usual, you give sound advice. But I also appreciate those who decide to go for it and share their actual experience.

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11. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   There's an old saying that comes to mind, "Percentage players die broke"..

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12. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   I guess that is the same as "no guts, no glory?". There may still come a time when I will go for it.

On the other hand, I cannot imagine that any RB brother can be accused of having no guts, considering that at a MINIMUM he has engaged for years in activity which exposed him to LE, not to mention risk from his own SO, or pimps and street walkers, HIV, STD, . . . . Which raised anothe question. Does Hugh Grant, Tiger Wood, Bill Clinton, Eliot Spitzer . . . deserve any glory?

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14. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-Apr-12 AT 09:55 PM (PST)
 
. Which raised anothe question.
>Does Hugh Grant, Tiger Wood, Bill Clinton, Eliot Spitzer . .
>. deserve any glory?


No, because they did way too much groveling and apologizing afterwards?

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15. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   a good point, and also because, in my humble opinion, none has the taste to choose a classier woman, as Jack Kennedy with his 18 year old beauty Ms. Mitford.I can apprciate Paris losing his mind over Helen whose face sinks a thousand ships, but I would not feel the same if Paris takes big risks and just to get a bj by a street walker in a car, as Hugh Grant did.

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16. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   Sinatra shot up testosterone like mad, was hung like a donkey, fucked a plethora of hella babes, and never had to grovel and cry about it. There is your glory maven!

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17. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   >Sinatra shot up testosterone like mad, was hung like a
>donkey, fucked a plethora of hella babes,

Sinatra, he was one of the tops but the all time champ is Hugh Hefner. I don't think anybody ever fucked more hot babes than him.

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18. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   I love the effect I get off of a dose of T, and being naturally on the low-end myself, I can get it prescribed to me, and I do use a 'naturopathic' testosterone cream. But the thought of having to have my prostate cut out and never being able to get a boner again keeps me from going over-the-top with injectables.

Prostate cancer would be a bitch!

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19. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   Hi,
Can youu give more details on the T cream? Is it instant offense, or one needs long term use to get benefit? Personally I don't worry about prostate, because heart attack etc. will kill me long before prostate cancer gets to me. But I am like you, not wanting to go overboard. Your cream sounds good to me. Thanks. CR

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20. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   Its expensive and works like shit. Your better off eating steak and pumping iron.

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21. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 09-Apr-12 AT 04:43 PM (PST)
 
Raising ones low level testosterone to normal levels is not unhealthy or dangerous.

Having natural low levels can cause medical problems in and of itself.

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22. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   True that, it seems that whenever someone even alludes to the S word(steroids)paranoia takes over and everything is seen in a bad light..20-30 years from now men will be keeping their T levels higher as part of a normal healthy routine, right now we are going through the "reefer madness" phase.

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23. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   The cream I use is from Key Compounding Pharmacy out of Kent, Wa.
You'll have to get a doc, mine is a naturopathic doctor, to prescribe it to you.

No it is not expensive. Andro-gel is expensive.

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24. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   Hi gvguy,

Good info. Thanks. Now, a couple of details if you caan share. How long after you take it before you feel the effect, and any side effect? You can also inboc me.

Aside from your information, the general conclusion I have from reading all these great posts is: don't do it unless your level is low and you really need it. But if you do need it, go all the way to injestable and not waste time on gel. Am I getting it just about right? Thanks guys.

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25. "RE: Is the testosterone Holy Grail a myth?"
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   It's not the same for everyone. I need it and the gel doesn't work for me (androgel). But my experience is just one.

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