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johnnyseven
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"BKK Hotels"
 
I'm heading back to the LOS next week for the first time in over a year. Needless to say, I am long overdue and very much looking forward to it. Travels to other parts of the globe have, while very successful from a mongering standpoint, have detoured me from Thailand.

So, I'd be interested to know the latest views on a couple of BKK hotels. My usual has been the Sheraton Sukhumvit, which I find very good from two standpoints. One is location, right about soi 23, where if time is a factor (often the case) I can find a nice spinner right across the street who will do me blue all night, or short time me if that is all I am in the mood for. Last year short time was 1000 BHT, I dont recall what I paid for all night.

The other major positive of the Sheraton of course is how girl friendly it is.

On this upcoming trip I will be at the JW Marriott, which is down Sukhuvit a few blocks, closer to soi 2 I think. I imagine it is just as girl friendly as the Sheraton, but I would like to be sure about that before I travel. As well, is there a plethora of available hotties as close by as if I were at the Sheraton ?

I would appreciate those who have stayed at both places chiming in. As is my usual habit, I will file a trip report upon my return (although TRs about BKK are not usually as necessary as those for other mongering areas worldwide).

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1. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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LAST EDITED ON 09-Jun-10 AT 01:27 AM (PST)
 
JW Marriott = super girl friendly. It's slightly more discreet to enter via the side entrance (closer to Sukhumvit) rather than the main one. They may check her bags because of the security precautions.

Girls are not as close as the Sheraton, but you're only a half block off Sukhumvit, and plenty of freelancers there, and then a block over (plus either the half block up to Sukhumvit or down a half block and through the Rajah hotel parking lot) you've got the block of Soi 4 that nana plaza is on.

Marriott has nicer rooms IMO than the Sheraton, although I may have gotten a bad room the once I stayed there; the Westin is nicer than either (IMO) in terms of the quality of rooms and bed, and it's about the same distance from Cowboy as the Marriott is from Nana.

I've found the general quality of girls better in Cowboy and a lot more bars there showing than in Nana (which was mostly not even topless except at the Rainbows last time I was there, which is a plus for the Sheraton or Westin... but it's a short cab ride and not an awful walk between the two. All three hotels are too rich for my blood lately; used to have sub-$100 deals all the time.

Thanks in advance for the trip report; I probably won't be back til early next year.

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2. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   If you like higher end hotels...try the Taipan, about 100 meters of less from Soi Cowboy...exit on Soi 23, make a left and walk...down on the left...they claim they want the girl to check in, but that was not my experience the 3 times I stayed there...just walked in and up to the room.

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5. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   It's ridiculous to compare the Taipan to places like the Sheraton Sukhumvit and the JW Marriott. Personally, I LOVE the JW Marriott, and I prefer the location to the Sheraton because of it's proximity to the Nana Plaza and car park, the Biergarten, and Annies. The Sheraton is closer to Thermae and Soi Cowboy. Up to you which venues you prefer. I think that the JW and the Sheraton are the top two places at ground zero, if your budget is up to it. Both are totally guest friendly. I miss the good old days when these properties were the 5* hotels (along with the Westin) that came up on Priceline for e $75/nt bid. Perhaps the hit to Thailand's tourism industry will restore that situation, although the existence of the Amari on PL as a 5* (which is an over-rating, IMHO) probably still ruins Priceline for Bangkok.

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14. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   LAST EDITED ON 11-Jun-10 AT 00:52 AM (PST)
 
No it is NOT ridicous to compare them, given the info originally provide...agree, Taipan sucks comapred to Landmark or JW, but WTF and who cares, it seemed he was looking for location and didn't mind paying...TaiPan kicks ass compared to Nana and Dynasty which is where a lot of the guys stay admit it or not...

I would maybe suggest, and this is just from report, I never stayed there, but Majestic Grand on Soi 2...supposedly a really nice place, and close to a lot of the action...

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15. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   LAST EDITED ON 11-Jun-10 AT 08:08 AM (PST)
 
The guy was obviously looking for an international chain 5* hotel because he was paying with a corporate expense account. That's why I said that it was ridiculous to bring the Taipan into a discussion between the Sheraton and JW Marriott.

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3. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   JWM=Soi 2=Very "friendly". As friendly to the punters as they are outrageous in rates. Don't forget, Annie's is a short walk down Soi 2 from there.

Why are the rates so high? Because maybe 30% of the rooms are prerented to the US Government. State, Army, CIA, DoD, you name it. And this just in...they like pussy too.

Marriotts in other cities worldwide have historically been very girl friendly. Maybe it's a Mormon thing.

Let me offer my 2c about the BKK JWM...it's not all that anymore. The room quality has gone downhill, many rooms the plumbing or aircon sucks, and their response is not to do maintenance on it, but to shut the room down, or keep renting it until someone complains too much. And the marketing staff definitely has an attitude about the place. Agoda quotes $152/night, where it's worth maybe half of that.

The former owner of Davis Entertainment Group went legit a few years ago, and owns a boutique hotel on the Rama IV side of Soi 23. It's looks pretty good, locals tell me it's a great hotel, nice fusion of Thai and Western...a Montien for the 21st Century, perhaps. Link: davisbangkok.net A lot cheaper than the JWM, too.

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4. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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Thanks everybody.

My hotel choices are limited to the JW Marriottt and the 4 Seasons at this point. I think they are both around soi 2.

Of those two, which is more girl friendly, if either?

Also, is the short time rate still $1000 bht for freelancer short time ? And what is the rate for freelancer long time (all night) ?

Last tiime I was there a freelancer stayed all night for the short time rate (proabaly just because she wanted a nice bed to sleep in), so I got three pops for the price of one (love those middle of the night and morning encores !)

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6. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   The JW Marriott is much better located for mongering than the Four Seasons - the Four Seasons is located near great shopping malls, but not near the best mongering venues - although it's not too far away, it's certainly not walking distance.

You might even get a hot FL for 800 Baht nowadays with the hit to tourism. In general, I'd say that the ST rate for freelancers is between 800 and up to 1500 for the very hottest.

LT for freelancers is between 1500 and 3000 baht, of course driven by how good looking she is, and how late at night it is and what she thinks her prospects are for multiple hookups that night.

Can we assume, that since you are only looking at the best 5 star hotels, but you are looking to spend 1000 baht or less on Freelancers for ST, that your company is paying for the hotel?

Because you are looking at Hotels that charge $150-250 a night, and you could very easily get a nice place like the Dynasty Grande or Majestic Grande for well under $100. However, if I was on my company's dime, I'd certainly be picking between the JW Marriott and the Sheraton myself (and I personally would lean toward the Marriott, but for the benefits I get as an SPG Plat member at the Sheraton).

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7. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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I like both the Marriott and the Sheraton, but I like the Sheraton better. Rooms are nicer and so are the facilities, but the JWM is nice as well. Both are girl-friendly. If you want to be discrete, enter the Marriott by the first door near the shops instead of the main entrance. For the Sheraton, you can enter on the lower level below the main entrance and take the elevator up to your room. At the Sheraton, you can phone in an order, she will come to the hotel and security will bring her right to your room. I usually top 50 or 100 baht to the staff bringing her up.
Both locations are excellent as Nana is near JWM and Cowboy is near the Sheraton. I prefer the Sheraton location. BTS is a 7 minue walk from JWM while the BTS goes directly into the Sheraton.

If you can afford it, go with the Sheraton, it's not a lot more than the JWM.

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8. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   >and you could very easily get a nice place like the Dynasty Grande or Majestic Grande for well under $100

I usually stay at the Majestic Suites, even cheaper, and I have been very happy with the accommodations. The location is superb and you can use the gym at the Majestic Grande.

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9. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   Stayed at both but prefer the Sheraton (but as others have alluded to, both are G freindly). Besides the Sheraton has a nice pool where I have often seen LT cuties frolicking with their mongers. Enjoy. I am envious.

Also, I agree that the Soi Cowboy girls are on an average better looking than at Nana...but I often check out both anyway. Where I was recently (before the problems) amazed at some DDG lookers was at Patpong. Some real quality (9+) in a few of the clubs there. Had to lift my tongue and jaw off the floor. Will return there for sure.

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10. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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OK - decision made (except see possible third option at the end of this post).

I'm going to go with the JWM over the 4 Seasons. The tie-breaker appears to be location. It is simple in my case - the reason I love the Sheraton so much is the close proximity to the freelancers (the Sheraton is not an option on this trip though - long story).

I just prefer the freelancer option to the bars. I don't care for the whole game of buying the drink that is sipped once, paying mamasan, etc. Why do that when you can just smile at a girl on Sukhumvit and ten mintues later she's got those sweet Thai lips wrapped aroung Johnnyseven.

Someone make me a compelling arguement for the bar scene or another option to the bars and I might just try it. One factor is that a bonus would be if I could get some decently sized tits - which I do miss in the LOS vs. places like South America.

Oh and yes, I am on company business, so room rate is not a factor. As well, it is Cathay Pacific Business Class to and from BKK. I cant believe I actually get paid to do this !

Sorry to gloat guys. Like I said above, a thorough TR will be filed. I promise.

So, now for the kicker. Third hotel option is the Intercontinental. Remember - proximity to freelancers is priority one.

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11. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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>So, now for the kicker. Third hotel option is the
>Intercontinental. Remember - proximity to freelancers is
>priority one.

JW Marriott, Sheraton, and Westin are your only real 5* options that meet this requirement. You could also include the Landmark and the Grand Millenium, but they are really 4* places.

The Intercontinental, Grand Hyatt, Four Seasons and a bunch of others are in Siam Square, not the Sukhumvit area. The Conrad and the Plaza Athenee are closer to Sukhumvit, but nowhere near as close as the JW. Marriott is - I use them when I need to be far enough away from ground zero for the action to be out of sight, but still somewhat accessible. You want to be in lower Sukhumvit, which is basically the zone from the JW Marriott to the Sheraton and Westin along Sukhumvit. None of the other places you mentioned are in that zone.

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12. "BKK Hotels"
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   I am off to Bangkok tomorrow and will be staying at S15 on Sukhumvit. Got a Jr Suite there for $108/night (includes all taxes). Got this through latestays.com. Great price and very girl friendly. Right between Nana and Soi Cowboy

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13. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   Nice place in a nice location, but it's a boutique hotel, not the sort of 5* full service international chain hotel the OP is looking for (after all, his company is paying for it - and they probably have a list of approved hotel chains in their travel policy). If he was looking for a smaller boutique hotel, there are at least a dozen of them in the area between Soi 1 and Soi 23 of Sukhumvit.

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16. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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So just one last detail quesstion.

At the Sheraton it is so easy to access the freelancers - I just walk over Sukhumvit on the BTS and drop down on the other side where the Westin is. The sidewalk there is crawling with freelancers, and I have never had the slightest problem grabbing a hottie quickly if I dont have a lot of time and just want a short time session.

Is it as easy as that at the JWMarriot ? Do I have cross Sukhumvit and is there a BTS there so that I dont have to acually touch asphalt ?

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17. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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It's almost as easy to get girls at JWM, because Nana and Soi 4 are a short walk away. BTS, though, is not quite as convenient. You have to walk for six or seven minutes to get to the BTS station. Nana and Ploenchit Stations are about the same distance from JWM.

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18. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   You don't need to cross Sukhumvit. One of the best venues for freelancers is the parking lot of the Nana Hotel on Soi 4, 1 block away, on the same side of Sukhumvit that the JW Marriott is on. This is also where you will find the Nana Entertainment Plaza. However, I recommend that you DO cross Sukhumvit (at one of the only places that it's safe and easy to cross - the traffic light at the intersection of Soi 3/Soi 4 and Suk, and check out the Biergarten on Soi 7 which is another of the best freelancer venues. While walking there, there, you will also find many freelancers on the sidewalk between Soi 3 and Soi 7.

IMHO, one of the only areas in which the Sheraton is noticeably better than the JW Marriott is actual BTS proximity, as the BTS station is 2 blocks from the Marriott, but actually connected to the Sheraton.

The Marriott is also located less than 1 block from Annies, a well known Soapie place, and about 3 blocks from Lolitas, the best BJ bar in the area. My experience is that there are noticeably more freelancers within 2-3 blocks of the Marriott than there are within 2-3 blocks of the Sheraton. But one caveat with street freelancers anywhere in Bangkok - it's a good idea to make sure they don't come with a dick and balls.

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19. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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Great stuff Seeker. Exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks

With that many freelancerss to choose from, I should have no trouble - like shooting fish in a barrell.

However, I did flinch at your last comment ! I've done my fair share of freelancers and a dick and balls have never been connected. I know they are good at making the boys look like girls in the face and body, so, just how does one assure this. Do a cup check - knock knock on "her" crotch and if it is hard, move on ?

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20. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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   First hint is large hands. Second hint is an unusual walking gait for a woman. But finally, when in doubt, just ask them. If the lady is a lady, and she is offended by the question, just tell her that you had been told that if someone was TOO good looking, they might be a lady boy, and since she was so good looking, you had to ask - that will cover you.

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21. "RE: BKK Hotels"
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Renaissance mentions that at the Sheraton you can actully phone in an order. I've never done that. Sounds a lot like room service:
"I'll have have the filet medium, as glass of merlot, and some pussy for dessert"

Seriously though, how does that work ? You just call the concierge and tell them you want DDG short time or long time ? Sounds good to me, and well worth the tip. Is the rate for the girl the same ?

I do like the trolling action, but if I am short of time, calling in an order might be a good play. Since I will likely be at the JWMarriott, can call it in there the same as at the Sheraton ?

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