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"Shanghai TR (newbie perspective)"
 
  
I was in Beijing and Shanghai on business last month, this was my first time in China so this report is more useful for newbies than the old China hands. I couldn't get away to hobby in Beijing and honestly the girls I saw were not worth it. Someone chopped up the ugly forest and beat the residents of Beijing with it. My local friends swear up and down that it was worse just 5 years ago but I can't imagine that. Anyone planning on opening up a dental shop would make a killing.

So on to Shanghai. Much more modern than Beijing and during the time I was there a lot less polluted. I didn't have a chance to try any of the famous spas and had to stick to the regular massage places and clubs. I was on the bund and there are a ton of little massage parlors in the back streets. Who can argue with $10 foot massages ? especially when they are given by 20 something hotties. I talked to a few of the girls, they ranged from 20 to 26 and most were in Shanghai illegally. All asked if I wanted a massage later in the hotel one girl quoted 400RMB and would probably have come lower.

How good are you at negotiation ? If you don't like to negotiate then you won't enjoy the massage places. It's all about the upsell. First place I went to had a tall very attractive 24 year old from Huanan, I decided on the cheapest full body massage at something like 200RMB. Once we were in the room she asked if I wanted to upgrade, I said full body upgrade she smiled and said of course. So for 355RMB I got a nice HJ and free roaming hands.

Happy with my deal I assumed that buying an oil massage automatically included above mentioned services. On my last day I tried a different place, I should have stuck to the tried and true but I wanted to explore. I picked the 355RMB oil massage (all places have nearly identical prices) and went down to the room with an attractive attendant. I should have realized something was wrong when she tried to sell me a pair of shorts for 40RMB, once she realized I was not going for it she tried to upsell me on the 800RMB 2 hour massage. Getting a bit annoyed I asked her to just get on with the massage. On the flip she asked if I wanted the HJ which I said of course, she quoted me 200RMB. At my incredulous look she claimed that they were not allowed to give any extras to customers. Now had I started at the 200RMB full body massage she would have been happy to upsell me on the oil massage and we would not have had any arguments about extras. So let that be a lesson to you, in Shanghai always start low and let them upsell you.

On an earlier night we headed down to club 88 where I went home with a local girl. She might have been a semi-pro and happily took the 200RMB I gave to her for the cab ride in the morning. On our way back we saw a ton of street walkers near the hotels in the bund at 3am, since I already had a girl with me I couldn't stop and check the prices but that's another option for anyone striking out at the clubs. We went to a few KTVs but I did not see any of the famous KTV girls, we might have been at the wrong KTV or it could have been the crack down due to the shanghai expo. The expo itself is ridiculously big and I wouldn't bother unless you like walking and are willing to go at night when the lines are a lot shorter.

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1. "RE: Shanghai TR (newbie perspective)"
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   Good report and info.........!!

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2. "RE: Shanghai TR (newbie perspective)"
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   What hotel did you stay at ?? looks like it was GF.

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3. "RE: Shanghai TR (newbie perspective)"
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   This was at the Westin, the girl I was with was dressed in clubbing clothes, none of the massage girls that I talked with balked at coming to visit the Westin. I didn't know that was an issue in Shanghai, considering the large number of girls walking outside at 3am I don't think they do much checking that late at night.

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4. "RE: Shanghai TR (newbie perspective)"
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I agree on the Beijing vs. Shanghai comment. Just got back from both, and hit up Maggies 2 nights, the Hard Rock Cafe, and Xiu in Beijing. Lots of cute girls in the Bund.

Beijing sucks, and not in a good way. At the famous maggies, the girls all (well... 90% of them at least) looked past their prime. HRC was just about empty at 11pm on a Wednesday, but Xiu had a nice selection of girls on a night out on Thursday nights, ladies night. Not sure if it's because of the world cup, but I doubt that matters.

Shanghai was magnitudes better. But it's still no HK. (Where you can get full service for $200! Or a 141 for $400-500 HK)

As for the massage places, I likely overpaid at 200RMB for a HE. Cute girl, said she was 18, looked 22-24 to me. But she was totally rough on the equipment. She was working it for probably 30 minutes after a semi rough night of drinking.

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5. "RE: Shanghai TR (newbie perspective)"
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   Yes, Beijing sucks- most of the good saunas are still shut down, Pig & Thistle no longer allows working girls in- not a good idea when you are a run down hotel bar (think of what the Thermae would be like if they didn't allow girls- *bad* business decision!).

Maggies only gets going after 12:30- were you there late enough? Anyway, the quality is low- I think one poster on ISG appropriately called them "Man beasts"...

While both Xiu and the Bund have lots of hot girls, so does the UC Berkeley campus- think your odds of hooking up would be similar...

I've gotten a little action from local BBS's, etc, but definitely avoid Beijing if you are looking to hobby...


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