or if you really really wanted to be cheap, you could catch the Novotel shuttle bus, which drops you off at the Novotel Hotel right next to the Tung Chung MTR station.

the main problem with the Airport Express is that if you're headed for anywhere in Kowloon, without a doubt you'd have to transfer and either take another bus or a taxi to get to where you are going. For a fraction of the price, you could take one of the 'A' buses going to the airport and not worry about transferring.

Now that I read MrDoe's post, I think he just said the same thing.

In terms of The Airport Express train - to and from the HKG airport, I can confirm the ride is 24 minutes from airport to HKG. and 5 minutes less to Kowloon. It uses electrical power and does not pollute, the seats are comfortable the trains are very clean and well run, every 12 minute intervals.

That said, if the 100 HKD price is a rip off to you ($12 USD), then feel free to ride in gas powered buses, who stop more frequently, and they take around 45-60 minutes to make the trip, depending on traffic. The train is MY preference for cost, efficiency, speed and comfort, but it may not satify some of you. Yes, you need to transfer to another land carrier (bus or taxi) once you arrive in HK or Kowloon, but those rides tend to be short and cheap, esp via taxi. Meanwhile - during rush hour, or peak weekends, or with any kind of traffic accident, your Airport Bus may sit and wait in slow traffic, while the train passing you by. The bus also means you needs to leave your hotel earlier, allow for perhaps more time for more commute time, etc. I stayed in Central District, and the taxi ride was 7 minutes to the Airport Express bus station, if you are staying in locations further out from the city- it may be less desirable. I liked it, I don;t expect others to completely agree.

To each their own ....isn't it worderful that we have so many neat options in this city?

I was going to post a few details about other p4p details, but it looks like a few of you prefer debating your choice of transportation, and that you can save $5-7 USD by using your options, which is fine.
I will add that if there are 3 of you traveling and can share a taxi, and the luggage will all fit in one taxi, it may cost you about the same (as Airport Express) for a taxi to the City, and it is door to door. Best to you.....

If you've got a later flight, you can check-in your luggage and get your boarding pass, and then be free the rest of the time to do things in the city. Afterwards, take the Express to HKG and go directly to your gate.

Thanks

--mrgoodman

Regarding the nice scenery, the train tracks are under the road deck when passing the bridges. Frankly, the buses actually get better view, especially sitting in the upper deck of the bus. However, people may prefer dark tunnel scenery, by all mean enjoy your view.

Well, I certainly agree that MTR trains run on electrical power. However, most of HK's electricity are from Coal-fired power generators. To each of their own, somebody said "It uses electrical power and does not pollute"

I didn't say that the buses were better, rather they were options available. It would really depend on where the person would be heading.

All airport buses travel mostly on speed ways and they don't make frequent stops. Although buses are subject to traffic, so as the airport taxis and the local connection ride.

Overall, most public transportation in HK are clean, reasonable cost, efficiency, speed and comfort, not just MTR alone.

Most of all, the octopus card is perhaps the best of the entire system.

JeSun:
Not sure about the Novotel shuttle, IMHO, I would rather pay for the 5 minutes S1 bus ride, instead of getting caught using their shuttle as well as finding the walk way to the MTR after the long flight.

Except for that 3 airport express train stops, without a doubt you'd have to make a transfer to many other district in the HK Island, not just Kowloon. The worst may be the long walk between HK station and Central station. Bottom line, it really depend on where are you going. Perhaps the best idea is to find hotels near any MTR station.

I always take the Airport Express, even when traveling in a group of multiple people- it's much faster to Hong Kong Island than any other form of transportation, even if there is no traffic- you pass the cars on the expressway. You can get cheaper tickets for multiple people or same day roundtrips.

I just grab a taxi from the HK Airport Express stop to my final destination- very fast and efficient, except during rush hour, when everything is slow. I have gotten to the hotel in less than an hour after arrival- not as good as the Kai Tak days (40 minute record, door to door taxi) or Changi (28 minutes!), but not bad, given the distance and compared to SFO...

Now back to the main reason for the thread- H2P, you said "Take out - Causeway Bay - night scene after 9pm - go to the 100 Block of Lockhart Rd, and parallel is 100 block of Jaffe Road, side by side, too many to name. Many decent restaurants, some casual, some dressy but reasonable, several Thai restaurants stood out along w the many Chinese restaurants, and other flavors as well."

Forgive me for being thick, but is this code for different race SW's, since the previous paragraph talked about the 141 walk-ups? Or are you just talking about restaurants for real (in which case, I would strongly recommend Chili Club if you want good affordable Thai food- 88 Lockhart Rd). While I've bumped into an occasional working girl on the Wanchai streets, I don't think there's anything approaching a stroll, unless things have changed dramatically...

Cheers

Friendly

Yes yes, the luggage check-in feature for the HK Airport Express Train save you tons of hassle, esp if you have larger bags to check or multiple bags. VERY convenient, and i beleive that you can check bags early, go play, and take the Express train later to board your flight. You don;t have to tote the bag onto the train, off the train, thru the terminal, and then to the Airlines check in area, etc. Very nice service indeed -

Sorry for the confusion, but the choices for real food at decent restaurants was a good selection on Lockhart Rd and Jaffe Rd, all near the clubs like Neptune 2, Amazonia, Joe Bananas etc. Many great eateries which had menu's of Chinese food, Thai, BBQ, some casual, some sit down in nice AC comfort.

In terms of SW, there were a few of everything on Lockhart, i would not call it a track, but i would say that if you make eye contact w a lady standing on the street, she is likely going to have ST on her menu, as an offering for your choice. The SW populations was not heavy for a Sun or Mon night, but was there, a few dozen at 10pm, it was obvious and available.

I did find 3 very cute younger Filapina girls (w no bellys) on the corner of Lockhart near 130-132 Lockhart Rd, a 7-11 store was nearby, the girl was a 8 face, 8 body and petite, b-c cup, and 8.5 sweet attitude, but i wanted to go explore and used her for Plan B if needed. Her asking price was too high - requested 1000 HKD for ST and 2,000 HKD for LT, which i felt was a bit high, and especially high for a slow night. She looked semi pro, cute, pretty smile, was not into the scene daily, spoke perfect English, GND look, was probably visiting from the Phillipines for two weeks, and out to earn her airfare. Her two friends were also nice, but I chose to pass.

I found plenty of talent inside of Amazonia Club, where there were at least 40-50 FL available. Amazonia had a live band, drinks were 30 HKD each, no cover, casual place, and easy to approach and talk with the FL, who were obvioucs, dressed nicely, and not cheap looking, avg age from 22-30, mostly Chinese, taiwan, Filipinas, and a few others like Thai and K girls. Good choices, no need to go elsewhere, except for variety. Outside of Amazonia, there were about 15-20 more ladies who hung out near the front door on the sidewalk, same MO, same demographics, and FL for sure.

Joe Bananas was very slow at night, some guys and ladies hanging our near the street side of the bar, but no crowd, few choices, a waste of time for me. Bananas is right across the small street from Amazonia, a one min walk.

Across on Jaffe Rd, is Neptunes II, large club venue w a similar scene and theme, similar mix of ladies and nationalities, I did not have much time to observe Neptune except to say check it out, it is also a 2 min walk from Amazonia, and in line of sight of each other. Taxi to one club, walk to the other two, grab dinner anywhere in the middle, and find the person of your choice for "take out" dining.
After 10pm, local taxis are all lined up outside of Amazonia, ready for a fare, all drivers there use meters and are honest.

I hope this helps keep the thread on the hobby, and good luck to anyone who wants to explore this little section of Causeway Bay, HK Island side. Life is good ....

On the Airport Express, for most flights you can check in up to 24 hours and until 90 minutes before your flight. But Cebu Pacific, Air Asia and some of the other minor carriers don't do in-town check in. Finally, you don't have to be taking the Airport Express to use the in-town check in- all you need is an Octopus card to access the area.

Friendly

I stayed in Kowloon proper with a view of the harbor. Tried a couple of the James Bond girls but found them nothing special. Also a couple of the street girls that were cheap but just OK. I found the best selections were at the "walk up' places scattered around town. Just knock on the door and when they answer say yes or no. Most were $350 to $500 HK. One location had five floors of girls with about 25 per floor. It can be a little intimidating at first but after a few times it is actually fun.

Also did the massage thing and enjoyed it. Both the massage and the FS.

It's almost like that show "Let's Make a Deal" and see what's behind Door #1 !

And then Door #2.......

BM - body massage
PD - physically disabled

464 Lockhart Road, Wai Chai / Causeway Bay area, across the street from McDonald's which is open 24/7, nice and cool AC and a place to meet your wingman after you dine, or just go for a cold drink there.

Hop Yee is a few doors to the right of a 7-11 store, a very non-descript looking front of the bldg, long narrow hallway going to the right side, find the elevators to the left side, if it is a 12 floor building, you are there. Just to be sure, when you go into the elevator, look up at the elevator permit posted on the wall of the elevator, it will say "Hop Yee Bldg" on it.

Take elevator to the top floor # 12. then look for doors w Hello Kitty and 141 stickers on them, which are rooms for FL girls in rooms inviting guests you will see two things:

A pink florescent light right over the door, light should be illuminated.
A sign on the door w a string on it, mostly in Chinese and English, 6 inches wide and 4 inches high, cardboard. simple

If the sign says Welcome or is green in color, ring the door bell and see the lady, decide quickly Yes or No, and then move on.
If the sign is red, pink or says "please wait", then she is occupied and leave her alone, and come back later.

Menu Shopping: Bring a small note pad, make notes of the room numbers you like most (ie 12b, 11d, 9c) go thru the floors, take elevator back up to the floor you want, and go find your lady, it is that simple.

Eating in: Another option is better, ring the door, see the lady, ask for price (usually 400 HDK or $55 USD), if you like what you see, say OK, smile, and walk in.

All rooms are fully self contained, with toilet, shower, towels, nice lights, rooms are neat and clean and safe. Give her a hug, take a shower, and let her take good care of you, she will provide the covers, or bring your own covers if you have a favorite comfortable brand, never pay up front, always pay at the end, bring exact amounts of HKD, time limit normally is one hour or less, one pop, second pops may be available for a fee , along w other services if you negotiate for them upfront.

Good luck - Uncle Hop awaits you.

Thanks in advance,

s2000fan

s2000fan

And when you do get more time to spend in the area, get to Zhuhai (across the border from Macau into mainland China, but you'll need a Chinese Visa for that). Best FS massage from the most DDG young girl I've ever seen. Most of the hotels within a short cab ride of the border have gentlemen's relaxation clubs. They parade the girls in and you're like a kid in a candy store.