-- for this kind of "incall" - the 5 stars where I stay (I'm confident they would offer it as you say I find the right middleman,) but I would pay the markup.

-- sounds like the hotels that are not as snooty make it pretty easy, ala the menu by the phone. 2000 BHT is no sweat for a good romp (c'mon $60 bucks - I pay that to play the public golf courses here. No brainer.

So, I suppose for me the next step is to just go ahead and ask. Like you guys say - talk to the bellhop/concirge/bartender. What have I got to lose ? If it does not pan out I fall back on strolling Sukhuvit or ordering from the bars.

As far as girls phone numbers go, that has worked very well in other parts of the world I have travelled (South America), so I have thought of it but a lot of the Thai girls dont speak enough English to even know what I want and where I am staying. I suppose I just need to get some regulars into the harem.

Funny about the golf by the way. Some expats I work with in BKK have regular caddies who of course offer up the "19th hole". I may play again the next time I go, so I think I will just tell my caddy to meet me at my hotel after we play, and offer her a generous "tip" Wondering what the going rate for additional shots is ?!

In Vietnam, i found an honest taxi driver who used the meter, and who spoke decent English. When I told him i wanted to go to a well known MP Massage parlor, he took me there, he waited for me outside to see if i wanted to stay, a smart guy. When I came back out and told him the lineup was not very good, he then kindly offered to "introduce me" to a young lady he knew, a motor bike girl. he said that she would arrive within 10-15 minutes, and that I had first right of refusal, and could say Yes or No, without any obligation.

He made the call, and gave the girl our location, waiting in a well lighted public hotel parking lot at the front door, so nothing was shady. Meanwhile, we chatted in broken English, and he was really a nice guy. In about 10 minutes, the motor bike girl arrived, it was around midnight, she has a guy driver for the motorbike, dismounted, and took off her helmet... a stunner.

She spoke decent English, pretty Viet girl w long hair, was a 9 face, a 9 body, nice rack, and 23 years old, a student who was not a pro, what a dream !! When i asked the price it was 700,000 Viet Money, about $35-40 USD as i recall, plus the hotel room was 150k dong, so total was about $50 US for FS. The hotel was near District 1, ST room, very clean and safe. Taxi Driver waited in the lobby, in nice AC comfort. this gal was excellent in FS and did it all, full GFE menu, and was da bomb. Taxi drive only wanted 120k for all of his time, a few hours, of course i tipped him well, and used him for the rest of the trip.

Sorry to disgress for a moment, but a variation of dining in- kind of like "drive thru service", but a good adventure, and great experience for those who always wanted a cute motorbike girl, fairly safe, and great service from a pretty Viet girl. I have always be partial to Viet girls, and this was no exception. I know some local BKK taxi drivers are connected, esp those working the evening and night shift, and they can call their girl, meet u in the hotel or in the lobby, and you decide if she is the one for you. If you reject her, give her a decent tip and taxi money for her trouble, maybe 300-500 baht ($15 USD) and thank her and kindly send her on her way. Be sure you understand the girls going rate for ST or LT, that you want FS after the masssge, and then there is no misunderstanding. If she arrives and tries to upsell, boot her to the curb - quickly.

Tip: If you tell the bellman, concierge or bartender - exactly what you want, type of girl, age, looks, body type, some English skills, you will generally not be disappointed. In room service, you tell them how you want your steak cooked, salad dressing on the side, no ice in the drink etc - so be specific. YES - we all know the middle man get a cut of the action, and maybe a nice tip from you for the arranged service, but what the heck, if you want to dine in- the prices for room servive is always more than eating at the restaurant, so prices are appropriate.

There are days you simply want room service, and I'm certain it is available in BKK, you goota be flexible and realize the meal may vary (YMMV) - it all depends on the chef. Bob appetite ....

Found a good stunner right in the Nana lot. Great bonus was that she had good size tits, not the norm here. Good session - she was very tight so Johnny was quite happy.

(Warning as always: careful about the ladyboys unless that of course is your preference.)

I gave her the going rate of 1000 BHT, and she asked for 500 more. Gave me the pouty lip, but I didnt budge. There's hundreds more over there who will do the same for the 1000 rate.

Tonight I'll give the Marriott bar a try before hitting the streets again. I want to see what the other options are.

I'll try the concierge as well tonight. From what I read above they should have some good girls to offer up, hopefully with pics. What should I expect to pay for this ? I presume the girl will be more than the street rate of 1000 B, plus how much tip for the concierge or bartender ?

An "arranged price" is likely going to be around 1500-2000 ST, as the good friend needs a cut. LT is likely around 3000-3500 but may be negotiable, if the girl is young and pretty she may ask a bit more, she is likely only a semi pro or amatuer, introductions will always cost more, for "dining in".

If you walk down Soi 2 to the front door of the Majestic Grande hotel, about a 2 minute walk, right across the front door on the Grande is the Annie's Massage, open only till 12 midnight. They have two rooms of girls, the regular ones are 1700 baht for all in full service FS<, or for 2500 baht are the nicer prettier girls, of which i did not see a big difference to me in looks,

Some guys like Annie's, it has been there a long time, very close and conveneint, good menu for dining in their location, take out needs to be negotiated with each girl after the session, but certain the girl will join you after closing at 12 midnight. I have always found a girl to take good care of me, the FS is wonderful, i tip around 200-300 baht if service is good, and a Very happy ending is certain FS style.

I also like Nana Hotel parking lot as many nice FL girls will start to hangout around midnight, and you can always find a ST or LT girl for the right price. I agree with you - do not overpay...

I suggest that you walk accross the street towards the Foodland Supermarket, and stroll down Sukhumvit at the bus stop at Soi 5, i have found MANY great FL working who are pretending to wait for the bus, but will happily come back for ST or LT, just make eye contact- and is usually cheaper prices than the Nana parking lot. I have found duets there also, my wingman loves to hunt there and is almost always successful ... they hang out there all evening, not just the late hour, and the selection changes every few hours, so check it often.

Of course, you need to walk over to the Soi 7 Beer Garden, no better place of finding a FL lady, for the right price, and everyone there is a worker, no doubt. you can see and speak to the girl and carefully see what you get- l like to strike up a conversation, buy her a soda for 45 baht, and if she kisses me in the beer garden and her kissing skills are good and esp if it is a DFK, that is a very good sign for me - along w nice body, English skill, be sure she "smokes", and the tyoe of FS she will provide, very hard to have that talk in Nana Parking lot.

BG is More casual, sit an sip a drink, girls are anxious to meet you, and all will do ST and many will do LT - and a good venue.

Keep us posted, i will be there next month - and good luck.

Found a sweet 18 yr old, no baby girl for 1,000B ST- I have never been able to get cheaper, but I usually go for the eye candy. I didn't feel like taking her all the way back to my hotel by the river, so got a short term hotel on Soi 1 for B300. Nice session- showered together, tight body, BBBJ, followed by FS in several positions. Not the most responsive girl, but at least she didn't fake anything or use lube.

I haven't ever booked a girl through a concierge, but would expect you would pay more of a premium than an additional 500-1000B- would expect 3,000B minimum, and then you never know who is going to show up. Best option is to go out for your own pickup.

Went by Annies before I picked up on the street. Used to love the place, but ever since they went to the two tier pricing (MILF's 1,700B, better looking girls 2,500B), I haven't partaken there- hard to justify paying regular soapie prices for Annie girls- I know the service levels are good, but they just aren't as good looking as elsewhere, and the facilities aren't as good either.

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