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inDude
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"Bachelor Party"
 
   A buddy of mine is getting married at the end of the year.

I've felt him out and he doesn't mind dipping his pen in the other ink one last time. We are both professionals so, a budget would likely be $2-3k/hombre including everything. The party would likely be in between xmas and ny 2010 over 48-72h.

I've found the following archive posts:

Montreal (too far for mediocre p4p)
http://forum.myredbook.com/cgi-bin/dcforum2/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&om=2693&forum=intl

TJ (Just too damn scared w/ the current situation and selection might be an issue at that time of year)
http://forum.myredbook.com/cgi-bin/dcforum2/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&om=1658&forum=intl

Also considering repeating a past trip to Golden Time FKK (but that'll eat too much time & $ getting there)
http://forum.myredbook.com/cgi-bin/dcforum2/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&om=5048&forum=intl

Other options might be San Jose CR (a little far, but doable), Vegas (p4p suck in Vegas) or Tahoe (p4p sucks, but can easily mask it as a ski trip).

I would like a semi-discreet location (not openly p4p destination like LOS).

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1. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   If you figure $3K per dude, including air and rooms...I vote Thailand or P.I. Where you should get a decent week in.

Now...1 question if I might...you said "...I've felt him out and he doesn't mind dipping his pen in the other ink one last time..." So how sure are you that it is "...1 LAST time...?" and if he is interested in this, why marry in the first place? and, while you guys are off being boys...what will your women be doing at home, and with whom? In short, if he is up for a mongering trip now, I doubt he will settle later...in short, friends don't let friends marry.

Over the years, I have known many a man to marry...usually, it is the bachelor party that convinces him it is a bad move...just sayin'...

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2. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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$3,000 in PI would be the most frugal way to go.

$1200 airfare
$50-60 / per night at Pacific Breeze for 7 nights either costing you $350 or $420 total.
$1400 for 7 nights in AC is just a ridiculous amount to spend in AC. I would be barfining 3-4 girls a night with that much money.

Memories from AC bachelor party = Priceless

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3. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   Actually I think Montreal might be workable and would not raise too many eyebrows. Its safe (since you mentioned TJ), good selection of professional french-canadian girls, reasonably priced (compared to Tahoe or Vegas) and not too far to get there/back (you only have 48-72 hrs).

On one of my stays there for work, 4-5 guys were having a bachelor party in suite next door. I heard (and then saw) a parade of 3 to 4 girls getting in and out of the suite. I went out to balcony for a smoke and was able to chat with one of the guys. Needless to say, the party spilled over to my room later that night. My share of the damage was $500 for the night.

Here's my rough take on a plan for weekend.
- Depart SFO - YUL Fri morning and come back late Sun
- Airfare ($500x2)
- Suite for 2 nights ($800)
- p2p for Fri and Sat ($1500 per day, enough for at least 4-5 girls)
- Total $~$5k (assuming 2 people)

The previous mention of satindreamz and montrealsexcity websites should give you some leads. Call Peter and tell him what you are planning and he can help.

Cheers,
Offshore

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4. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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If I understand you correctly....you only plan on a two to three day trip. So that means Thailand and the Philippines are not a good option.

If you are looking for an international trip I would consider these three locations.

1. Tijuana- Not as bad as you think if you are smart. I would stay in San Diego and walk over the border and take a taxi straight to the Hong Kong Club. Just stay in the area and take a cab back to the border. You should be fine if you don't act like drunken fools.

2. Costa Rica- Not as far as you think. I would stay at the Hotel Del Rey and the Blue Marlin would be your hub. Plenty of non-mongering activities to keep you busy during the day.

3. Vancouver- Enjoyed my one mongering trip there many years ago. I hear it is still a good spot.

My two cents...

Dave

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inDude
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5. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   All,
Thanks for the suggestions. PI, SEA and CR would be too far and too obvious.
Vancouver sounds interesting (2-4h by plane). It can double as a ski/fishing trip.
Any tips on mongering over the 'holidays" up there. I know in many places the action dies down (except LOS of course).

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6. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   What about one of those mongering resorts in the Domincian Republic and vicinity? It seems like you could be gone for three days, spend two nights there, and have all the fun you need...

I haven't been, but I remember reading many posts here in the past (check the archives) and the budget sounds right.

Regardless, sounds fun!

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8. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   LAST EDITED ON 14-Aug-10 AT 04:53 PM (PST)
 
I'd second the DR, but it is slightly longer trip, and an even more obvious a P4P destination in the eyes of suspicious civie women than Costa Rica is.

I would also recommend TJ, and to actually do the travel and hotels in San Diego - you can say it's a fishing and/or golf trip. When you walk across the border, they don't even stamp your passport, so nobody but the travellers even needs to know that you went across to Mexico.

IMHO, Vancouver's nice, but the mongering opportunities are only fair by international standards (although certainly better than the in the U.S.)

However, with your stated Budget, it allows room for creativity much closer to home:

Another choice is Vegas. Admittedly, P4P is crap/expensive in Vegas, but on the other hand, actual travel expenses could be as little as $100 per person to fly there, plus $50-80 a night for hotels. So your budget would easily allow another $2K per person for whores, and $2K can buy plenty of hooker time in Vegas - although probably not any more than $1K could buy you anywhere else.

As for Tahoe, the same thing as Vegas applies, except I don't think that there is much P4P around, other than the Carson City Brothels and streetwalker crap. OTOH, with $2K per person to allocate for hookers, you could easily investigate the talent from Northern California and pay to have 2-4 ladies meet you in Tahoe for the weekend. I'm pretty damn sure that in the current economy, most Norcal hookers would jump at an offer of $1000 each to travel to Tahoe and provide somewhere between 4-8 hours of actual intimate time during the course of a couple of days/nights.

What I would do is structure the deal for the ladies as follows: They each get $200 for travel expenses to Tahoe, plus $150 an hour of actual intimate time (minimum 2 hours each, up to 8 depending on how much you enjoy their services), plus $50 an hour of together time that's not bedroom time (such as shopping, dining, hanging out at the pool with you). And I'd sign up 4 ladies who struck my fancy to make the trip.

Each lady would get a minimum of $500 for travel and 2 hours private time, and then, they are essentially competing with each other to see who gets the rest of the cash to service you and your buddy.

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7. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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LAST EDITED ON 14-Aug-10 AT 02:25 PM (PST)
 
Frankfurt is a bit longer trip (6hrs vs 11 hrs) however it is one of major P2P scenes in the world compared to Montreal. Montreal has a nice escort scene but it does not compared to institutional setup like FKK.

In three days including the travel time, it is possible to hit two or three FKKs. As frequently mentioned in this thread, there are three major FKKs in Frankfurt area in Oase, World, and Palace. Ruhr area FKKs such as Golden Time has solid reviews however connecting flight would be required (direct flights to Germany from SFO are only for Frankfurt and Munich; United or Lufthansa).

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9. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   For 2-3 days, why even bother. If there are 2 of you and you have 2-3K to blow, blow it here stateside...Vegas, SFO LAX etc...tons of whores and booze can be had for what you are looking to spend, why blow the air fare? Get a nice suite, a few whores, maybe a porn star to top it offm and let it go that way. Well just a thought.

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10. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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LAST EDITED ON 14-Aug-10 AT 11:49 PM (PST)
 
I don't know 2-3K would be enough to have an all out party here in the states. Hotel suites are not cheap and porn stars are definitely not cheap. Also some of porn stars are flaky so two buddies may have to settle for hotel pay view adult movies. I know it is a long trip to Germany but experience and reliability can't be matched here in the states. Probably two days are not enough time for Germany but 3-4 days could be worthwhile.

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inDude
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11. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   Thanks for the tips guys.

I might be settling on Vancouver. Tahoe is tempting, but I've had bad experiences getting ladies to travel (esp that time of year). I was in napa w/ a suite on the golf course and it was a PAIN to get anyone to show up (offered $1k for 2 ladies for 3h). Finally, through sheer determination, these 2 ghetto ones showed up from Sac. Granted it was around the same time of year this BP is planned.

Are there any areas in Vancouver where you can walk up and pick (dare I say FKK style), instead of rolling the dice on the internet? Makes me wish I had to flexibility to go to LOS or PI (I loved the line-up back in the day at 2nd & howard).

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12. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   A couple of places to start your investigation in Vancouver would be Madame Cleos and Club Platinum. You can find thier contact info on the web.

You might wish to contact them and get an idea of the kind of packages that they could put together for between $500 and $1K per guy and what choices that would offer.

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13. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   One other option worth consideration might be Cabo. I haven't been there, but I gather that P4P is readily available if not cheap. You could use fishing or scuba as your cover story.

Here is a recent thread: http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/intl/7172.html

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14. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   Cabo is crap for P4P. More expensive than the U.S. is for sure.

On the plus side, hotels are currently going begging, and you can get some great deals on some top tier hotels presently. And, of course, you actually can find some great fishing, scuba, and golf there, when you are not paying $200-300 per hour for hookers.

It's also possible that the hurting tourism industry has brought the P4P possibilities more in line in Cabo, but I can't speak to that, it's been over a year since I was there.

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inDude
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15. "Vancouver It Is"
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   Day 1: Arrive... hit the local downtown talent Cleos, Platinum, and more (Suggestions on good centrally located, somewhat modest hotel... maybe a strip club)

Day 2: Limo to whistler & Ski (any suggestions for talent there?). Get a pimp pad and maybe see how life sucks picking up on civies.

Day 3: ? late departure... Check in baggage early at airport and then maybe some more downtown talent

Suggestions for Whistler and quality Green findings are welcome.

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16. "RE: Bachelor Party"
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   Seriously I would tell him just don't get married. If he still insists then just go to Vegas and have a good time at a strip club. Then pay up the ass for a well reviewed provider down there. If you take him to monger overseas he will always have that on his mind. Marriage is so overrated nowadays.

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