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Hardon
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15695 posts		 06-Sep-06, 08:43 PM (PST)
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"Freshwater Fishing trip"
 
If you had 4-5 days, could only use Amtrak as transportation and wanted to do some freshwater fishing, where would you go? North, South it does not matter.

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125 posts		 06-Sep-06, 09:30 PM (PST)
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1. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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   Does Amtrak stop anywhere near McCloud? Good flyfishing around there. About a fifteen years ago, a rail car filled with herbicide derailed while going over and spilled into the the McCloud River. Things have come back as far as I can tell. So I know the main north south rail line runs through that fresh water fishery.

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2757 posts		 07-Sep-06, 12:38 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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   LAST EDITED ON 07-Sep-06 AT 12:45 PM (PST)
 
I'd go to the Sac, not just because you could get there quickest,
for more overall fishing time, but because you could target the blue ribbon flyfishing areas for trout, AND the salmon are in there now as well.
I'd concentrate on trout though...The october caddis hatches can be epic
depending on the area. Redding would be a good home base so you
only have to use about 1/2 day travel time(?)
You could go to "The Fly Shop"(off I5) and book some drift boat trips
or simply get info on the local creeks.
There's a lot to chose from including great private water sections
of creeks and pods if you want to pay for fishing in solitude

Edit: The opportunity for gear fishermen is equal to fly-guys, although certain stretches prohibit bait and others _may_ be fly only.
You'll not likely run out of places to fish though.
If you've never flyfished, the Sac by drift boat is a PERFECT learner
but be warned...you may never pick up a conventional rod again.
Something about making the cast, then watching a 24 inch wild rainbow
sip it down and pulling it tight right before all hell breaks loose
has a way of changing a man ;)

This isn't really a "Dream" destination for me simply because
I like the whole ID,MT,WY scene, but for MANY it is.
There's lots of big wild trout in that river. Its an often overlooked
area, probably because its always there, right under our nose.

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oralio
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4677 posts		 07-Sep-06, 01:10 PM (PST)
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3. "how to begin fly fishing?"
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   For a regular joe who hasn't fished in decades, has no gear, and never flyfished, who lives near Oakland, where and how do you recommend taking fly fishing lessons, look at gear, whatever?

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sir_humpslot
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2757 posts		 07-Sep-06, 02:53 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: how to begin fly fishing?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 07-Sep-06 AT 03:03 PM (PST)
 
I know there's a good flyshop in Albany (FishFirst) that'd probably be a wealth of info. I bet there's a few flyfishing stores over there though.
If you know zilch about it, a lesson or two is probably a good idea
cause you'll learn the basics from equipment to rigging it, to casting.
Once you have the basics down, I think you'll grow as an angler far faster by fishing, than by taking lessons.
For me, I was totally self taught(its really not that hard) but I had a strong conventional fishing background.
After I 1/2 mastered a very ugly cast I went to Montana and fished
for a week in the back country for very gullible cutthroat trout.
After that week, I felt I had the basics to be competent anywhere
I went.(No, I wasn't but I felt that way and confidence is important ;)


I think FishFirst has all day or maybe weekend "Intro packages where its learning the basics first, then actually go catch fish. That's what I'd be interested in if I were starting out from scratch
cuz you can really use the equipment plus why cast into a concrete pond
when you can cast to where you might actually catch something.

Just found this...I'd point a beginner to this type of class over simply taking casting lessons any day. Sounds way more fun.
http://www.fishfirst.com/fishwithus/small_stream.html

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oralio
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4677 posts		 07-Sep-06, 05:42 PM (PST)
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11. "RE: how to begin fly fishing?"
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   thanks. Much appreciated.

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Hardon
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15695 posts		 07-Sep-06, 02:07 PM (PST)
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4. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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LAST EDITED ON 07-Sep-06 AT 02:22 PM (PST)
 
I've done both Fly and gear in Alaska and Canada. It's just been years since I picked up a rod & real.

Hell Idaho, Wyoming and Montana are a possibility, just a longer train ride.
(Oopps, never mind. It's like 30 hours to get to Montana)

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sir_humpslot
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6. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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   Yah, I'd stick to less rail hours over more fishing hours if it was me, especially w/ Fall on the Sac being such a great time to fish.

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Hardon
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7. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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LAST EDITED ON 07-Sep-06 AT 03:21 PM (PST)
 
Any ideas exactly where in Sac for trout, both fly and gear?

It is a shame the train does not go up to the American River.

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8. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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   I'd head up to Redding actually (The sac river in redding)
In the town of Sac proper, not really sure. I know there's
access up and down the river, but its a really big river at that point
and I think most guys fish from boats and target the Salmon.
If you wanted to trout fish, I'd call a sac fly shop and ask,
but I think the fishing specifically for trout is vastly superior farther north on the river like up around chico, or red bluff up to redding

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Hardon
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15695 posts		 07-Sep-06, 03:44 PM (PST)
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9. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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LAST EDITED ON 07-Sep-06 AT 03:44 PM (PST)
 
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I'll post some photo's of my record catch when I get back

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sir_humpslot
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10. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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   I wanna hear all about it! Have fun.

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12. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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   >If you had 4-5 days, could only use Amtrak as transportation
>and wanted to do some freshwater fishing, where would you
>go? North, South it does not matter.


I don't do much freshwater fishing, since I tend to go out on party boats here for rockfishing and salmon.

But you could take Amtrak to Truckee and fish at Donner Lake or Lake Tahoe.


http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Amtrak/am2Route/Horizontal_Route_Page&c=am2Route&cid=1081256321209&ssid=137


http://www.tahoebest.com/fishing/

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Hardon
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15695 posts		 08-Sep-06, 08:56 AM (PST)
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13. "RE: Freshwater Fishing trip"
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Actually that maybe a great idea. I didn't think Amtrak went to Truckee.
So now it's either I go north or east, I'll have to make a decission soon before it starts getting too cold in Truckee.

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