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   Ok, well i think rodman is a great rebounder but not hof caliber, but a lot of people disagree.

if rodman went up against bill russell who is considered the greatest defensive player in history who would win the battle of the boards? rock saw both play so i would be interested in hearing what he has to say.

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1. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   Great question.I too have been able to see both guys play although I was young when Russell was playing.To me Russell wins the battle but perhaps only slightly.Russell was a little taller, more slender and never seemed to have to fight for position to get a rebound.Russell was one of the most intelligent ballers ever.He knew where to position himself to get the ball.Rodman is more aggressive and will just go to the ball from anywhere.I grew up hating the Celtics but always had to admire and have the utmost respect for Russell and the Celtics.They would destroy my hometown team(76'ers) most times. The battles between Wilt and Russell were unbelievable.I have always enjoyed watching Rodman play where he has been and his passion at times was relentless. At times though he would some stupid things on the court to hurt his team.That said he was still very close to Russell IMO.Two great NBA players. I feel fortunate I had the opportunity to see them both.

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2. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   watching them on film, you're right that russell never had to fight for position. he just looked like he had that instinct to be in the right position-kind of like jeter in baseball always in the right place. russell was suppose to a superior athlete too, so guess russell would win.

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3. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   Bill Russell is 6'10" or 6'9", 220lbs. And he was playing against other scrubs back in the sorry ass era. Wilt was nothing special as he was dominating against other scrubs too. If both of them play in the 80's, 90's, and now, they'll get run over by a bunch of bigger and stronger players.

Dennis Rodman held his own against Shaq, Karl Malone, and other big boys. Dennis Rodman will push around Bill Russell like a little kid.

Mr_magoo007 must be a dumb old timer who hates today's athletes because they are more superior than the old timer scrawny daisy dukes wearing players.

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4. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   yeah right rodman or malone or gasol pushing wilt around! thats a laugh....wilt was 280 pounds of muscle....and russell was a superior athlete compared to todays scrubs ! russell would be a starting center on any team today....you know nothing about sports you retard.

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5. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   LAST EDITED ON 14-Aug-10 AT 03:26 PM (PST)
 
>yeah right rodman or malone or gasol pushing wilt around!
>thats a laugh....wilt was 280 pounds of muscle....and
>russell was a superior athlete compared to todays scrubs !
>russell would be a starting center on any team today....you
>know nothing about sports you retard.

Yup, I was right. You're a damn senile old timer on a wheel chair. Even Big Baby and Kendrick Perkins would ruin Wilt. Players today are bigger, better, stronger, and have better nutritionists/trainers. It really doesn't take a genius to figure that out. And Shaq would stomp on Wilt easily. And if your coke bottled glasses isn't broken, you should be able to see Shaq's bicep is just as big as Wilt's leg! Shaq would literally destroy Wilt and break him in half! Only idiotic old timers would be nuthugging on weaker athletes in the old era.

Bill Russell can't even bench 250lbs. And a lot of today's high school kids can easily bench over 250lbs. Therefore, even a NBA scrub today like Erick Dampier would throw Bill Russell around like a weak little rag doll.

What's next from you? You're going to claim Jerry West is better than Michael Jordan?

Yea, you know nothing about sports. Put some WD-40 on your wheel chair.

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6. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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>Players today are bigger, better, stronger, and have better
>nutritionists/trainers.

And that's the flaw in your argument. If Russell, Wilt et al had the benefits of today's knowledge about training and nutrition, they would no doubt be better developed physically than they were.

This is the basic problem with trying to compare athletes of different eras. A more apt comparison is to their peers. Russell and Wilt were dominant players in their time, a label which is seldom applied to most of the players you cite except by fat-mouthed assclowns.

In the 1968 Olympics, Bob Beamon exceeded the world record in the long jump by almost two feet. This was so unexpected that the optical device used to measure jumps was not designed to measure a jump of such length. It was an astounding feat, perhaps the greatest in the history of track and field if not in all of sports, and this is not diminished by the fact that his record has since been bested by others.

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7. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   LAST EDITED ON 14-Aug-10 AT 04:11 PM (PST)
 
>>Players today are bigger, better, stronger, and have better
>>nutritionists/trainers.
>
>And that's the flaw in your argument. If Russell, Wilt et
>al had the benefits of today's knowledge about training and
>nutrition, they would no doubt be better developed
>physically than they were.

No it's not. It's a well known fact that today's athletes have better skills, size, strength, speed, over the scrubs back in the old days. Like I said, old timers are threatened by the present day athletes because they'll always say "oh but back then, we were better!" No you're not, please get back on your wheel chair. Fuck old timers.

I mean give me a fucking break! Some idiot senile old pricks actually have the balls (wrinkled ones) to claim Jerry West was better than Michael Jordan. Hahahaha! That's a fucking joke! I mean seriously, give me a mother fucking break! Again, fuck old timers.

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8. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   well there was a poll back a year ago and the 1991 bull's or any bulls team with mj would be swept by the bill russell lead celtics. someone even said that mj would lose a one on one against cousey which i believe would happen.

you neglect to remember its a team game and russell was the ultimate team player. if you knew anyhing about basketball it is not just strength-in most sports-have yo heard of tony manderich? strongest man in football was thrown around by reggie white and the rest of the league-case closed

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9. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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Your sports knowledge is eclipsed only by your vocabulary skills.

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13. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   Wilt Chamberlain was unreal. I had the chance to see him play in person many times as a kid and even met him in person once.He was a beast.Not known for any kind of a jump shot but around the basket he was unstoppable.His 100 points scored in a game still holds the record.Kobe, MJ threatened it a few times but came up way short and that's with shooting 3 pointers which Wilt could not do in those days (nor could he if it was).Wilt would more then hold his own against any of the current NBA players today IMO.I would agree that todays players are more athletic and better conditioned but there were some great players from the past.

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14. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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LAST EDITED ON 15-Aug-10 AT 09:27 AM (PST)
 
"Not known for any kind of a jump shot but around the basket he was unstoppable."

Correction: Wilt developed a very effective turnaround and standard 15 foot jumper. And in his 100 point game he was 24 for 24 from the foul line.

Wilt also had a similar attitude as Bob Gibson, the pitcher for the Cardinals. Gibson said the inside half of the plate was his, Wilt told opposing centers the paint was his. And if they violated it he put 'em on their ass. Same goes for Gibson -- go ahead and crowd the plate and wind up with a heater in your side.

The operative term is "domination". Wilt had it, so did Gibson. Not sure if Rodman was such a "dominate" force. Strong, undoubtedly. Dominate?

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10. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   As always, howard, you don't know what you're talking about. I guess you just like the attention.

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11. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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>>if rodman went up against bill russell

Stupid premise. Anyone who seriously ponders what would've happened is exposed as an unintellectual blowhard.

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12. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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Funny how limited a discussion can be. My first thought was Buck Williams. A bad ass on the boards. No one mentions Nate Thurmond, number three in total boards over a career. Rodman isn't even in the top ten for total boards but will give it up to him in terms of average boards per game. I don't deny Rodman's gifts -- he knew if a shot was in and if it wasn't where it was going to go.

While the greats get the deserved publicity I like to think of the unsung heroes, e.g. Larry Smith with the Warriors. I remember a game when the Sixers came into town and all the press was about Barkley's rebounding skills. Smith proceeded to grab twenty boards that night.

The arguments go on and on with unfair and inaccurate comparisons. I prefer to acknowledge and appreciate and not necessarily rank 'em. Of course I haven't watch it a long time. The NBA game has passed me by although Dwight Howard is a healthy indicator.

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15. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   well there are a lot of great rebounders, and you can add jerry sloan as a guard relentless, paul silas would eat rodman alive...and also maurice lucas who would have kicked the hell out of rodman

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16. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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How about Nate Thurman?

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19. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   Actually, Nate is number 5 in total rebounds (malone, kareem, wilt, russell).

And, as an aside, Larry Smith was the only player to hold Larry Bird scoreless in a game.

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17. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   Pound for pound, and considering his low height by NBA standards, the "round mound of rebound" may have been the greatest. I'm talking, of course, about Charles Barkley. Barkley didn't believe in boxing out. He would just step in and grab the ball.

Moses Malone was also a great one (averaged 18 rpg in the 1978-79).

Walt Bellamy was also a hell of a rebounder.

But I date myself here. The youngsters will accuse me of living in the past. I yield the discussion to them...

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18. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   LAST EDITED ON 18-Aug-10 AT 04:15 PM (PST)
 
Charles Barkley played in the best era of NBA (80's and mid 90's). Wilt was playing against scrubs. Barkley would push Wilt on the ground and make him cry like a little boy.

Fuck old timers athletes.

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20. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   LAST EDITED ON 18-Aug-10 AT 10:02 PM (PST)
 
Considering his relatively smaller size and the fact that he played in the modern (3 point shot) era, I'd say Dennis Rodman is the best rebounder the game has ever seen. He averaged more offensive rebounds than total rebounds of many small forwards in his career. Think about that for a second. Most players will average nearly twice as many defensive rebounds as offensive rebounds, so offensive rebounds are much more difficult to amass than on the defensive boards. Kobe Bryant, who is roughly the same height as Rodman, averages 5.30 total rebounds a game, only .5 rebounds a game more than Rodman's offensive rebound average per game! What Rodman did was truly amazing, considering the fact that he did it in today's game; the advent of the three point shot meant longer rebounds and the shooting percentage in today's game is higher than in Wilt and Russell's era. I would venture to guess that the rebound totals of players in the sixties would probably decrease by 5 rebounds per game if the difference were taken into account. Which leads me back to my original point: given his size and the fact that he played in an era where rebounds are harder to come by, Dennis Rodman is the greatest rebounder in NBA history.

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21. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   LAST EDITED ON 18-Aug-10 AT 11:23 PM (PST)
 
Agree about Dennis Rodman. I dislike him as a person, he's a dumb ass. A prick, a loser in life after he retired from the NBA. But he's the best rebounder in the history of the NBA, hands down!

Wilt, Bill Russell, fuck those old timers. I saw many many videos and clips of those old timer dorks played, and it did NOT impress me one fucking bit! It was like watching one okay skilled player playing against other sorry ass scrub players. I'm telling all those old timer fans, Bill Russell and Wilt will be playing 3rd stringer if they were playing in the best NBA era of the 80's to mid 90's. Shaq will break Wilt in half. Erick Dampier will push Bill Russell's skinny little 220lbs body around like a bully.

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22. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   I think Chamberlains only competition was Russell and the NBA only had like 17 teams back in the early 1970's???

The Greatest All Time Rebounders should be classified by decade.

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23. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   80's to mid 90's are the best NBA era. Hands down. Fuck the rest.

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24. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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   What tripped me out was Rondo getting 18 rebounds in a playoff game... 18 boards for a small guard??? Thats pure hustle

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25. "RE: Greatest Rebounder in NBA"
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Mugsy Bogues would school all of these punks.

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