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"Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
 
LOS ANGELES -- Unless the Dodgers reel off a win streak in the next week, they are likely to place Manny Ramirez, among others, on waivers.

Ramirez, a free agent after this season, returned from the disabled list on Saturday and went 0-for-3 with two strikeouts. He was given Sunday off and is expected to start on Tuesday night, when the Dodgers open a three-game series in Milwaukee.

Several teams, including the White Sox and Rays, expressed interest in acquiring Ramirez at the July 31 Trade Deadline. To be traded by August 31, the deadline for postseason eligibility, Ramirez must first clear waivers. According to ESPN.com, Ramirez was not placed on waivers on Monday.

A team claiming Ramirez off waivers is likely to wind up with him, because the Dodgers would be freed from having to pay the remaining $3.3 million on his contract. The Dodgers also could pull Ramirez back if he's claimed and keep him. Because he has a no-trade clause in his contract, Ramirez must approve any assignment. Ramirez has been on the disabled list three times this year (twice for a calf strain, once for a sore hamstring).

Other free agents-to-be the Dodgers could unload if they become sellers: pitchers Ted Lilly, Hiroki Kuroda and Octavio Dotel, outfielders Scott Podsednik, Reed Johnson and Jay Gibbons and infielder Ronnie Belliard.

The Dodgers trail first-place San Diego by 12 games and are eight back in the Wild Card race.

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1. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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   Dodgers have the worst luck on free agents, and it started with Darryl Strawberry

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2. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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They should. Teams would rather have Vin Scully, than ManRam.

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3. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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   I guess Boston knew what they were doing when they let him go a few years ago for more reasons then one.He probably still can add something to some team but not at his price.Manny could be in for a rude awakening.Perhaps as a DL in the AL is his best shot. Defensive wise his is a major liability in the outfield.I wouldn't be too surprised if the Yankees don't try to pull something off with him now that A-Rod is on the DL.One of the contenders might get him for some extra punch down the stretch if he is healthy enough. But that is a big if.

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4. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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   The Yankees would be sick to pick up Manny

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5. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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   Question is will the Giants pick him up off waivers to keep him from going to San Diego?

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6. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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After dropping a series to Milwaukee, seems the Pads need him.

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9. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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LAST EDITED ON 24-Aug-10 AT 08:50 PM (PST)
 
Pads can't afford Manny. Plus, they're a no-nosense team and Manny seems too animated to fit the mold.

Yes, the Pad-Squad lost to the Brew Crew but W 7 of 10 on the road trip.

Chris Denorfia/Deno was starting games in T Gwynn Jr's stead (anemic bat) prior to his injury.

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10. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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I'm with ya on Manny, just let the guy go away.

Six teams into four spots, and the Giants have suddenly decided to score like the Niners. Scratch that, more than the Niners.

Both teams have got to pile on the wins, especially against the teams they can/should beat, that's why I was pretty surprised that the Brew Crew took two. That 2-3 game lead your guys had ballooned over 5 right quick, but it can be lost quickly, too.

The Giants look like world beaters for two days against the first-place Reds, and they could very well go on vacation against last-place Arizona. Nature of the beast.

I'm so loving this.

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12. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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LAST EDITED ON 25-Aug-10 AT 05:36 PM (PST)
 
Tought loss for the G-Men. I see how Bud Black takes care of his pitchers and they play like the Gs did today, w/ lots of heart, in turn. This is why the Pads dont L more than 2 of 3- they have the best pitching.

Chris Young will be back to help out the starting rotation...Gwynn will, too.

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13. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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Tough loss, yes, but they still took the series from a legit team.

The errors are inexcusable, especially Panda's air mail in the ninth. Game should have ended right there.

But still, who on earth would have thought this team could have clawed back from a 10-1 deficit? Against a junior high school team, let alone the Reds?

Bodes well.

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7. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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   Manny doesn't have the team esprit d'corps that the giants have and need.

he is a dh someplace for a few games

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8. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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He undoubtedly has been put on waivers. Just no team is stupid enough to claim him. The Dodgers would give up that 25 mill salary in a minute.

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11. "RE: Will Dodgers put Manny Ramirez on waivers?"
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It looks as if there is a GM dumb enough to pay for Manny.

From ESPN.com:

CHICAGO -- The Chicago White Sox will put in a claim on Manny Ramirez if the Los Angeles Dodgers put him on waivers and no team claims him before the White Sox, according to a league source.
FoxSports.com first reported the story.

The source said Ramirez would become the White Sox's designated hitter against all pitching, and that going back to the American League, where he wouldn't have to play the outfield, appeals to Ramirez.

Manny Ramirez has played just 62 games this season and has been on the disabled list three times.

Ramirez said he's heard nothing amid the speculation.

"No, man, nothing," Ramirez said while snacking on a banana before returning to a conversation in Spanish with teammates Vicente Padilla and Ronnie Belliard. The Dodgers clubhouse closed moments later for a standard team meeting before Los Angeles began a three-game series with Milwaukee on Tuesday night.

If the Dodgers delay putting him on waivers, it could impact the Sox's decision due to their position in the standings.

The Dodgers most likely will put Ramirez on waivers Tuesday or Wednesday in hopes of ridding themselves of an unproductive player who no longer can play the outfield sufficiently in the National League. Ramirez, 38, has been on the disabled list three times in 2010.

"I don't think that it's anything different than what goes on in July. All the rumors that fly around in July about trade possibilities," Dodgers manager Joe Torre said. "You know I can't talk about what's going on, but just the attitude, I don't see any concern, first off in his game. ... You really are bred to deal with distractions. It's our job, and so, I don't see it affecting him at this point."

White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said if he was asked by general manager Ken Williams if he wanted Ramirez, he would say yes, even though Ramirez's value is a question.

"Manny is a tremendous hitter," Guillen said. "I don't think anybody doubts that. Can he help us? I don't know because he hasn't played in the big leagues in a while.

"You talk to me about Manny and I didn't even see Manny in spring training and we played against him every day. I don't know. If you give me Manny when he was with Boston, I take a limo to pick him up. But I haven't seen Manny in a long time."

Ramirez came into Tuesday night's game against Milwaukee hitting .312 with eight homers and 39 RBIs in 62 games.

Williams said it's a violation of tampering rules if he spoke specifically about Ramirez, but said that his club can never have too much offense.

"We've got to have the conversation and see what the numbers are on the salary, how we're doing in the standings and the gate. The last 30-some odd days it changes seemingly on a day-to-day basis," he said. "You have to think really long and hard about where you are at a given time and what you're going to do."

The waiver procedure goes in reverse order of standings, starting with the player's current league. So in the case of Ramirez, the team with the worst record in the National League has the first opportunity to put in a claim. It's perceived that no team in the NL envisions Ramirez as an every-day position player.

As far as AL contenders go, the White Sox have the worst record. Therefore, it's perceived they will have the first shot at Ramirez before teams like Texas and Tampa Bay, who may have their own interest in Ramirez.

If and when the Dodgers place Ramirez on waivers, they a have a chance to either receive a player or players back from the team that claims him, eat a portion of Ramirez's contract, or let the claiming team take Ramirez with no compensation. That team would be obligated to pay Ramirez the $4.25 million remaining on his 2010 contract.

The Dodgers also can pull Ramirez back, meaning he won't be able to be on waivers for 30 days, rendering him ineligible for postseason play. Players must be on the roster by Aug. 31 to be available for the postseason.

Ramirez has a no-trade clause in his contract, meaning he must approve the deal before any transaction is finalized.

Dodgers owner Frank McCourt was at Miller Park for the unveiling of a statue honoring baseball commissioner Bud Selig, as was Reinsdorf. McCourt said the day was about Selig and he wasn't discussing any business.

A Dodgers spokesman said GM Ned Colletti wasn't on the team's charter to Milwaukee, but is expected to join the team at some point during this series.

Baseball blog The latest news and notes on the White Sox. Blog

The White Sox believe Guillen and his coaches can easily communicate with a player like Ramirez, and find it appealing that Ramirez has hit .325 vs. right-handed pitching and .257 vs. left-handers.

According to the source, the Sox are prepared to assume the $4.25 million owed Ramirez off his original $20 million salary for 2010. Ramirez is a free agent after 2010. Any claiming team would not have any obligation to him after this season.

With 16 home games remaining, the White Sox could easily recoup a large portion of Ramirez's contract via new ticket sales and marketing. Owner Jerry Reinsdorf has shown in the past he's not afraid to spend money and make a big splash if the decision makes baseball and economic sense.

The Sox most likely won't have to give up a player in return, unless the Dodgers want to pay some of Ramirez's salary, which isn't likely.

Several White Sox players were intrigued by bringing in Ramirez to help bolster their offense.

"It's just a rumor at this point. If he shows up tomorrow in his uniform, we'll all welcome him," Paul Konerko said. "Hopefully it'll be good. But until then, it's tough to comment on. We only see as players what you guys see, what's on the TV, if at all."

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