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"UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
 
   Some great matches coming up this weekend with title LW contenders and hype MMA vs Boxing.


Diaz vs Davis: Diaz by decision.
Going with my boy Diaz. Better submissions, better training partners, awkward stand-up. Matched with some good fighters in the past. Don't see "how" Davis could get the win.

Florian vs Maynard Florina by submission 2nd round.
Stand-up about even. Submissions goes to Florian. Experience? Florian has that too. Maynard's matches against Diaz and Huerta were perhaps his "peak" fighting abilities. Is that enough for a win against Florian? Not really. Yeah, I remember the Sherk and Penn matches Florian had but Maynard no Penn; Sherk has way better take-downs than Maynard.

Toney vs Couture Couture by submission in the 1st.
Toney got one and one change only to KTFO Couture. Four months of MMA training for Toney? Are you "f-ing" kidding me?! That's not going stop Couture clinching, taking you down, working you over and sink in a submission. Couture just might get a GNP stoppage. Maybe a Toney vs Kimbo would have been a better match up for "Light Outs".

Penn vs Edgar Penn by submission within 3.
Though Penn won the first match, round 1, 2 and 3. But that's the past. Has Edgar changed his game plan? I don't think so, going to "hit and run" aka Evans vs Ramage; Penn will find him. If Edgar decides to exchange with Penn, good luck. Penn very heavy hande and loves to stand.

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1. "RE: UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
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>Toney vs Couture Couture by submission in the 1st.
>Toney got one and one change only to KTFO Couture. Four
>months of MMA training for Toney? Are you "f-ing" kidding
>me?! That's not going stop Couture clinching, taking you
>down, working you over and sink in a submission. Couture
>just might get a GNP stoppage. Maybe a Toney vs Kimbo would
>have been a better match up for "Light Outs".
>
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I agree that Toney is in over his head with Randy Couture. I think Dana White wants to prove a point by showing that a MMA champion will beat a boxing champion. Some boxing fans still won't belive that MMA is a superior combat sport.

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2. "RE: UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
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   I don't even see how the MA athletic commission even allowed this match to happen. Oh well.

In the center of the cage or near the fences. Don't see "how" Toney will manage to kept Couture from clinching or takedowns. Like I said, Toney has one shot. Either an uppercut when Couture coming in or a short hook square on the jaw while in the clinch (Couture too smart to leave himself open). Thats about it. Maybe a good stiff jab followed up with some good shots.

Toney may get away from Couture 2 or 3 times but I don't see him being able "sprawl and brawl" the whole match. He's going to find out how exhausting defending take downs and clinching really is. And he's not in fighting shape.

Couture has way too much experiences for Toney. That's one of Couture's best attributes-game planning.

Don't really see the point of MMA vs boxing. Seen it plenty of times. Remember, "butter bean" getting submitted in 2003 or 2002 in his first MMA match. Same going to happen here.

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3. "RE: UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
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   Like to add "who in the 'F' is this guy Toney brought in?"

Some special forces anti-terror guy. Are you "F" kidding me? Are your "F" serious?

This isn't taking trying to 'hold' someone at the airport or mall "f" dumd ass! And waiting for back to help.

A hard lesson for "Lights Outs". Remember his match with Roy Jones JR? One of RJJ best high matches.

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4. "RE: UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
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   Florian by submission.

Toney by KO. I wish!

BJ by submission.

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5. "Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   James Toney can't defend a takedown properly, can't escape mount properly, can't escape submission properly, and can't tap properly. LOL!

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6. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   yeah they brought in a over the hill and old boxer. bring in merriweather and then see who would win. bring in tyson in his prime and one punch would take care of couture

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9. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   Doh! You're not using your head!

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10. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-Aug-10 AT 11:54 PM (PST)
 
This is what happens when a MMA fighter goes up against a boxer in the cage and on the street.

By the way, Shaquille O'Neal was in the house. And so was Tom Brady. You can see it towards the end of the clip.

http://www.mmafv.com/2010/08/randy-couture-vs-james-toney-fight.html

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11. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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Mayweather is a purist and will probably go down in the HOF undefeated (yes, he ducked contenders). He would only have a punchers chance against a bad ass MMArtist (inclusive of wrestling).

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12. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   why does the boxer have to fight a mma fighter by their rules? let couture go into the boxing ring and see who wins. never heard of a mma fighter wanting to into a boxing ring

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13. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   The boxer took the mma money to fight in their ring..boxing usually requires prior matches/skill set to fight..so why would a ufc/mma fighter want to go into a boxing match? I think the real losers are people that pay money to see "entertainment" like this??

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14. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   A sad disappointed for Penn and Florian.

Toney vs. Couture was a give me. There been many, many, matches of MMA vs. other MA disciplines in the past.

How many of you remember Shamrock match against some bad ass Japanese Kick boxer/thai fighter? It was doomed from the start. "World's Most Dangerous Man" nearly took the guy's leg off. The ref was a kickboxing ref not an MMA (shooto)ref, the fool didn't even know the KB wanted to quite until he was screaming for his life!

As for an MMA fighter getting into the ring, that will never happen. It's a whole different game.

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15. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   There's no rules in fighting, dumb ass! Try talking about "rules" on the streets while you're facing one guy. And don't give me that eye poking and biting shit, those will never work. MMA is as real as it get in terms of stimulating a one-on-one empty handed street fight. Just having boxing is NOT enough to survive.

Doh! You're not using your head!

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20. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   since when is this happening in the streets? in thailand they use all body parts and i am sure any crip would bring in other weapons for a street fight

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21. "RE: Easy victory for Randy Couture"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-Aug-10 AT 07:28 PM (PST)
 
We're talking about why boxers sucks against a MMA fighter whether it's in the octagon cage or on the street. Nobody mentioned anything about "weapons." If two guys are facing each other empty handed, either inside the octagon or on the street, the boxer will lose. It's a fact. A person with just one skill (only punching) will not beat a person with multiple skills (punching, kicking, knee strikes, elbow strikes, takedowns, submissions). It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. You need to use your head, little boy.

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18. "RE: UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
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   Who had Maynard willing all three rounds?

IMO Florina won the 1st-more active, pushing the pace. Maynard pull outed the 2nd-got some GND but nothing to really hurt or dominated Florian. Seen a close, perhaps a draw for the 3rd. A takedown for Maynard but "no" real dominance...just staying on top on Florina.


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19. "RE: UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
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   Maynard is at the top of my list of boring fighters, take downs and can't do shit from the top.

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24. "RE: UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
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   He's now the #1 for the LW title. Wasn't really impressed with Maynard last night or his match again Edgar.

Don't really see any transitions from the top either-changing to better positions. Just alot of old school bulldozing-coming straight in.

His take-downs are relentless, doesn't not give up. Using the fences a part of his GND game.

Should be a good match.

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25. "RE: UFC 118 Penn vs Edgar/Toney vs Couture Picks"
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Gray Maynard may not be the flashiest fighter in his division, but he's easily the toughest. He absolutely dominated Frankie Edgar for 3 rounds when they fought 2 years ago and will "bully" Edgar around the octagon to his way to a UFC LW title when they fight for the championship this time around.

Maynard dominated Florian the other night for 3 rounds, taking him down at will and overpowering him whenever he chose. Gray Maynard is the best LW in the UFC and has been so for quite some time. He's undeafeted and should've had a title shot a year ago.

Styles make fights and unfortunately for Frankie Edgar, he won't have an answer for Gray Maynard's fighting style.

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