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"I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
 
There isn't anything really positive going for Michigan this year. I've read all the 'expert' previews and predictions, I'm looking at the derth of talent coming back. And I watched every televised game they've had since god knows when. I know this team. They're...awful.

It has NEVER been like this for me. I mean, its Michigan. You go into every year thinking Big 11 title, Rose Bowl probably. Maybe even contend for a National Title. Rich Rodriguez changed that. Some things he directly contributed to, a lot of it was/is circumstantial. Either way, since he's been in charge Michigan's gone from powerhouse to JV.

But fuck it. I'm not gonna mope. Its too easy to be pessimistic. I'm gonna get behind my team. I have confidence that Denard Robinson will have learned to run an offence. Im confident that the entire offence will finally be comfortable in Rodriguez's system. I'm confident that the D, which lost 2 starters to the NFL and 1 to season-ending injury, will stop someone.

Fuck it, I'll call my shot. Michigan wins the Big 11! You heard it here first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlS3twJWYSc

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1. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   I'd be happy with 9 wins and a bowl birth. If not, I hope they suck one more year so Rich Rod gets canned and they pursue Harbaugh......HARD!

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2. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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Dude, I know what you mean about Rodriguez. Is it wrong to root against your coach? I of course want UM to be successful but that seems unlikely with Rodriguez at the helm.

I'd rather have Les Miles. Remember how Roy Williams couldn't say no to UNC twice? Hoping Les feels the same way.

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3. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   Michigan is gonna be better this year, but they'll get their butts whipped in Columbus aqgain, it'll be 7 straight for the Buckeyes...

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4. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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Yeah, Ohio St is stacked again this year. And Terrell Pryor looks like he's finally coming into his own. Bad news for me.

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5. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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This conference split must have caught you by surprise, eh?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5519832

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6. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   Rodriguez's Michigan teams have suffered a lot from Lloyd Carr's failure to recruit top talent the last two years of his watch. Carr just gave up trying to recruit.

Rodriguez's spread offense is difficult/impossible to run without quality players. It's difficult/impossible to win game without quality players.

Ironically, it appears that Michigan will have a good offense this year, but they will have a weak defense, ironic because Michigan's last national championship team (split with Nebraska) was the best defensive team in the nation.

LW

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7. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   mich should be a lot better this year, remember they hired him because they were tired of getting their ass kicked along with osu in bowl games. they are finally getting away from 3 downsa and a cloud of dust and getting into the new century where you have athletic players

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9. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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>>they are finally getting away from 3 downsa and a cloud of dust and getting into the new century where you have athletic players

Add that to your long list of stupid comments.

Michigan, under Carr, ran one of the most pro style offenses in college ball. That unfortunately is what hurt them early on in Rodriguez's tenure.

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8. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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While the players may not have lived up to expectations, Carr DID bring in top talent his last 2 years. Ryan Mallett was 'supposedly' better than Jimmy Clausen. Brandon Moore was just a 1st rd pick. So in hindsight, yes, his last two classes weren't great but it was still considered 'top' at the time.

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10. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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Go Blue!

I am not all all confident in Forcier though. I really don't like him. I will root for them but I think they are not destined for a good year. Iowa, OSU, Penn St., Wisconson are all tough this year. I want to see how they do against ND next week.

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11. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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Well Forcier is 3rd string so don't worry. As I mentioned in my my OP, I knew Robinson was going to be the man. And that worried me. But he looked great yesterday. I'm still not totally sold on him, hopefully he can duplicable this performance on a consistant basis.

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12. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   you should all about michigan, i wonder why you would be a fan of theirs when you would never ever be able to even get in to the school? i mean they won;t even look at someone that only has a ged.

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13. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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It is beyond humorous that you write like that while simultaneously attempting to tell anyone else that they are stupid.

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14. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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mr magoo is just like Ivote4pubs in FH. Someone's fake handle meant to be a stupid parody. He being stupid...I mean...someone's making 'him' stupid on purpose.

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16. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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Actually, he isn't. I Vote 4 Pubs is pretending to be stupid and he's hilarious. Magoo is not pretending to be anything, he's seldom humorous and when he is it is so not intentional.

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15. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   i type to fast old man

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17. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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I type very fast and my work doesn't look like yours at all. You are just an idiot.

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18. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   well you are used to that being a data entry clerk, i mean this is your job to type fast. i do admire that you are good at your job-data entry, i am a bit envious of it

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19. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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LAST EDITED ON 07-Sep-10 AT 10:08 PM (PST)
 
AcousticDozen,

There is nothing wrong with rooting for your team in a decline. I've been one for years. Or, closer to the subject at hand, just look at Cubbies fans (or the blindly rabid ND fan).

As for that big school in Washtenaw county, well it's not going to be their year. If things play out the way they should, the Maise and Blue will fall underneath PSU, OSU and the Hawkeyes and get into a middle of the road bowl, (say 7-6) with a win in San Diego or SF. OTOH, there is a reason they play the games. So, there is always the possibility the folks in A2 can do better than predicted.

As for RichRod, he's on a seat lined in aluminium attached to a bunson burner. In fairness, his system at WVU was very successful and he contended on more than one occasion. However, his system is a paradigm shift from traditional thinking off US-23 & I-94. Regardless of the talent selected, Carr's selections don't align with RR's system. That, along with changing the system, means significant risk. The more seasons it's little blue, the more risk from boosters. More importantly, the more frequently U-M loses, the more likely the Big"however many it turns into" becomes more about Penn State/OSU and big blue fades into middle of the road obscurity like MSU or Purdue (worse case scenario). Or much like Nebraska's position in the Big 12 before their escape to the new BigWitotb.

Personal opinion is that RR is a great coach and can build out a great program. He just can't win the big game. And that's a problem at Michigan where he is required to win 2 out of 3 big games every year. (ND, OSU and the bowl game).

IOWs RRs position is more tenuous in replacing Carr than Gary Moeller in replacing Bo.

In short SW, you can "hail" to victor (of specific games) and whatever works best for Michigan in the long term. Eventually they will once again become the "Champions of the West" and more. Just don't expect those miracles to happen this year.

Sincerely,
a foolishly optimistic Quacker Backer

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20. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   M is also my team. Up until 2 years ago I would go into a sevarl day funk if they lost a game.
I am sad to say that after the last 2 years I have become accustomed to them losing.
I hope that changes this year and I am encouraged by last saturday.

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21. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   ps--I am surprised at a 6 point spread for this weekend--I kind of thought it would be a wash--Must be home field advantage and concerns about the defense

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22. "RE: I'm a foolishly optimistic wolverine fan"
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   pss--Forcier really made himself look bad last week

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