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"Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
 
Thinking about moving from Comcast to Dish Network or Direct TV. Any opinion (I know everyone has one)on which one is better. Do either offer internet access with their service?

I am on the Mid-Peninsula, if that matters, have a Plasma HD and right now I have Comcast and have both internet and TV service.

I primarally watch the standard Network (FOX, NBC, CBS & ABC), FX, USA, SciFi channel, Spike TV, Discovery Channel, National Geographic Channel, ESPN, HBO and Showtime.

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1. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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I have Direct TV, because a few years ago the Dish Network was having a problem paying there bills.That meant that some of the channels that didn't get paid on time were off the air till they got paid.That no fun when you pay for a service and don't get it.
My nieghbor had Dish Network at the time and told he was having problems with channels not being available....so we both have Direct TV now....
just my .02 cents
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2. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   You probably wouldn't want to consider using satelite for internet service, it'll be more expensive and less bandwidth. Also if you're into playing realtime online games, you'll see a noticable delay in the response.

Doesn't comcast offer internet as a stand alone product? If not then DSL and satTV would be a nice package. In fact, SBC(now AT&T) offers such a package and with a discount.

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bigbasin
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3. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   With Directv sat services you will have to PURCHASE the HiDef sat receiver, around 700-900.

Why do you want to dump comcast?

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Hardon
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4. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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I've been having multiple failures of the HD boxes. They have had to replace 3 of them so far.

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5. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   that's a bummer - with or without the hdd?

i have both and they have worked ok. I have plenty of airspace around them, especially the one with the hdd.

check out www.avsforum.com and see what the experiences of other directv/dish hidef users are. I think with Dish, you need two dishes for hidef.

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Hardon
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6. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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Yes they both have hdd. I always make sure there lots of space between the components.

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12. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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>I've been having multiple failures of the HD boxes. They
>have had to replace 3 of them so far.
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Id take a look at your environment..somethin there is doing it.

Three, in such a short time?

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7. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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If HD programming is anyway desirable, avoid Directv. They've got very little and the hardware is ridiculously expensive AND they no longer offer TiVo service.

Dishnet has a large selection of HD channels, but at the moment aren't offering locals. In the Bay Area, you can get HD locals via Directv, but they currently don't have a DVR to support it.

I recently left Directv for Comcast. They've got all the locals in HD, a comparable HD expanded package, I didn't have to buy an equipment and On Demand was a tremendous pleasant surprise.

.......and that's one to grow on.

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9. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   >AND they no longer offer TiVo service.

That isn't true at all. I use my Tivo with or without Slingbox most days. Here is their Tivo service for new customers:

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TiVo_HD.jsp


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10. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   How is the HD?

Finch.

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13. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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>How is the HD?
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I have no issues with my Directv Tivo, or the HD quality, its a few Mb/sec higher quality than any Comcast Mpeg stream.

The massive amount of transponder space coming online from DTV over the next few years (including this winters launch that will be coming online this summer) that will beam down H.264 streams instead of Mpeg2, will quadruple the available channel space at the current quality (temporal), and thats without multiplying the effectivenes of spot beaming.

About the only thing cable has to offer, is internet access, and on-demand stuff.

Cable in no way whatsoever has the capability to expand its channel space to compete in HD like the birds will be able to. Only a pure fiber path to your settop box will solve that, and unless youre in a few special verizon cable geographies where this is being tested, dont hold your breath.

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16. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   Do you think it would be better to wait until later this year or next year to get HD from Directv? I've been thinkinbg about it, but it seems like kind of a hassle, and I'm not it sure it's worth all the money and effort just yet.

Finch.

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20. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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>Do you think it would be better to wait until later this
>year or next year to get HD from Directv? I've been
>thinkinbg about it, but it seems like kind of a hassle, and
>I'm not it sure it's worth all the money and effort just
>yet.
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I would research all you can on the new dishes and receivers for the H.264 (MPEG4) capability, and jump in at that time if you are HD focused.

If youre not HD focused, theres no bad time, just that there will be a shift in settop box technology coming pretty soon that you'll have to re-invest in (small tradeup free I hear).

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18. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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I should have been more clear. While the HR10-250 does still function, it's future is limited. Already in the sky are new Satellites that will soon offer HD Locals and a greatly expanded selection of HD channels. The existing HD Tivo recievers will not be able to recieve these channels and as DTV has started selling their OWN HD DVR, there is no plans for upgrade (and due to the change in MPEG compression, a software upgrade is not possible).

.......and that's one to grow on.

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24. "New contract"
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   They've just agreed to another 3 years and settled a patent dispute.

http://www.forbes.com/video/?video_url=http://www.forbes.com/video/Wednesday/04126b&id=w2&title=Video%3A+TiVo%2C+DirecTV+Reconnect&partner=rss

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25. "IP issues not really settled."
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   Didn't really settle the dispute, more like put it aside for the duration of this agreement. I wonder if this puts a little gasoline on the Tivo vs Dish lawsuit. Granted a working business relationship and litigation costs mean something, still makes one go hmm.

For me, the hope is that this means that there will be a new DTV HD Tivo that supports MPEG-4 streams. I was kind of surprised to see that the new HD Tivo coming out in Q3 didn't go the MPEG-4 route, I assume that hardware MPEG-4 encoders have not dropped enough in price.

X
SO smoking crack thinking that there will be a new DTV HD Tivo.

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8. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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The Dish Network needs two separate dish antennas for thier HD package. That means two dishes to setup, align, decorate your house with, and maintain. If that makes any difference to you.

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11. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   I have Directv and wouldn't even consider anything else. It has always worked well and of you can get NFL Ticket.

Finch.

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clydexxxx
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14. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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if you want sports, then DirectTV is better than Dish. I personally only use the satellite for the NFL to watch all the games and I use Comcast for the rest.

I also had several HD Motorola boxes flake out, but then I figured out that they were giving me repaired & refurbished boxes that had already failed. so the last time, I asked for a brand new one and it's been working excellently ever since. I get mine in Hayward and they are all out of the box already, so you have to get one that still has the clear plastic protection over the channel window. that's how you know it's new.

also, sometime later this year, TiVo is coming out with an HD box that will be compatible and the Tivo boxes are much better than the Motorola ones.

so my suggestion is to go back and try to get a new motorola box and hold out until Tivo has theirs.

Laissez les bons temps rouler!

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15. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   The Tivo HD box will probably cost consumers. the comcast hd with tivo software is due out late this year and won't cost any extra besides the hdd service, that is the one i'm waiting for.

I want my wish list back!

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17. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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I have Direct TV with the TIVO built inside the receiver. It's the BEST tv system I've ever had (far better that Comcast). I can record two shows at once, PLUS watch something already recorded while doing that.

Go to Direct TV, don't look back.

yd

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19. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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Your Tivo will be obsolete by the end of the year I'm afraid.

.......and that's one to grow on.

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21. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   One major point here, plasma tv's don't like analog broadcasts. Even if you are subscribing to digital cable you are not 100% digital. Direct TV is. When I got my plasma last fall I noticed the difference from my old direct view right away on analog brodcasts. I switched to Direct TV HD with an off air antenna mounted on top of the dish supplied by Direct TV and now I'm getting three of the four networks plus HBO, PBS, etc in HD. The 21st of this month I'm switching to the new Mpeg 4 dish and receiver--the upgrade is 99 bucks including installation. I'm keeping the off air antenna on the new dish until the summer when the new HD DVR from Direct TV is available so I'll be able to continue recording with my TIVO in HD. The new DVR upgrade will be available at a subtantial discount to current subscribers I'm told. Bottom line is overall picture quality, certainly with a plasma, is superior on DTV.

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22. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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This is from the Comcast website under DVR FAQs future info.

• TiVo DVR service: Comcast will offer a TiVo-branded DVR in the majority of its markets, which will incorporate popular TiVo features such as the ability to automatically record programs based on user preferences.
• Web-based DVR recording: Comcast will provide customers with the option of programming their home DVRs from any computer by using their high-speed Internet account.

Laissez les bons temps rouler!

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23. "RE: Satilitte TV- Dish or Direct?"
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   fighting the forces of evil since 1952...

I'm curious. I know radio reception is affected when there is a heavy solar flare.

Is there any effect on satellite reception duting high solar activity?

Falkie

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