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"*SA: Street Rules*"
 
LAST EDITED ON 23-Jul-09 AT 03:43 AM (PST)
 
These are now anchored, due to popular demand ... otherwise known as "Rules for the Newbies" , originally posted courtesy of Piker:

RULES OF ENGAGEMENT

1. NEVER talk thru the window! Period.

2. NEVER pick up a gal on the main drag (motion them or signal them to go down a side street). If they are too dense, or lazy to walk down the side street ... just move on.

3. Let THEM open the passenger door and hop in (you will miss a lot of action this way, but you are guaranteed not to get busted: I hope) The best pickups are when they hop in and immediately grab your crotch (which rarely happens). Asking "Do you need a ride" is better than.."I need to get laid" or " Looking to date"...etc..IF a girl says meet me "over there, around the corner" etc ...just drive away in the opposite direction - say "Sorry there must be a mistake; I thought you were hitching for a ride"

4. Once in your car:

A. Generally from what I understand if they are inside your car it’s a good chance they are not affiliated w / LE.
B. Do a “cop check”. Grab a tit or have her grab your crotch..or anything resembling that. Experienced girls will automatically do this. I still shy away from that unless I have driven a block or two.
C. Don’t tell them what you want nor how much you want to spend (many will ask “how much you got?”.. that’s irrelevant), I usually ask "what’s on the menu"? if they are reluctant to say, I make that I'll drop them back off, and usually they will say what they offer and what they want to charge. I usually negotiate down and then if its been a good session I tip them. It doesn’t pay to be cheap with a few bucks.

5. NEVER pick up a girl on impulse, drive around , check her out, see what is going on. If you miss her (ie: another dude picks her up, then you know shes good to go) - later you may get another chance.

6. RECON the area; I usually cruise a few loops around adjacent blocks to get a feel for the area (I have often spotted LE lurking around the next corner and even actually scoping out the same girl!)

7. Don’t count on them having condoms. Bring some with you.

8. Don’t count on them being freshly showered: I usually bring cleaning supplies with me. Please don’t think your the first guy they have dated that day ... because, frankly, you're probably not.

9. If you go for 1/2 and 1/2 get them totally naked, if you can. If they ask for money first, give it to them after they are stripped. DO NOT pay money up front if possible. If not possible, pay half now half later when done. Remember if it was a good date and you want to see them again ... tip generously. If you pay all money up front be prepared to get burned in some way.

10. Hide your wallet and stuff, have the money separate from the wallet.

11. Have a spare key made! Use a dummy key ring in case they rip it off.

12. Insist they turn off their phone. I tell them if the phone rings and interrupts us and I get soft, we start over again. It doesn’t always work, but they put the damn thing on vibrate and ignore it.

13. I've started to walk their stroll, this gets me closer to them so I can see what they look like. Usually I can strike up a conversation, they do the cop thing at that point, sometimes I walk away, sometimes I negotiate them to go down a side street, often you get a number

14. Its best to pass up a dynamite chick than to break any rules and take the chance. Remember “IF ITS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS”.

15. Run away from the ones that yell "you want a date? you got 80 bucks!?"

16. Recon Recon Recon

17. Have patience, patience, patience

18. Average 1/2 & 1/2 = 60 bucks.
Carry 20's. 10's and 5's. If you get a cheaper deal, how you going to break a 20? or tip a smaller amount?

19. Don’t go to their place (for a car date). Always have a spot picked out of your own. It took me two weeks to find a spot. If they don’t want to go to your spot, drop them back off. Note: If you have dated them before and have a “relationship” then their spot is OK. The point is you don’t want to get mugged by a new girls pimp.

20. Bring a camera?

21. Wet wipes; for cleaning up before or after

22. If you go to a clinic to get a checkup; DESTROY all paperwork before you leave the clinic. If you must keep some document, leave it in a secure place at work.

23. If you get a good deal (like a 1/2 1/2 for .4), and you think you want to repeat later, give them a tip. They will remember you and give better service next time. I even tipped one 20 bucks one month later (because I didn’t have any more $ on me,) she was like, "you got my #, call me soon, I'll do you even better". Yeah baby............

24. Bring along a banana, you may get hungry later....or....

25. Take a piss right afterwards.......so drink some water before the stroll

26. If you keep your napkins in the glove box (this is the first place these girls look for cleaning up jizz), make sure your registration and checkbook and any other ID material or valuables is not in there.

27. When done with your date and BEFORE you go home. Pull over at a Walgreens, clean out your car, look for tissues, crack, empty condom packets, parts (no matter how small) of condom packets, combs, earrings, etc….. look under the seat, in the door, under the mats. Buy a fresh air freshener and stick it in the car. Even look for any condoms that may not have been thrown out like you thought but were tangled up in a towel that inadvertently got washed in the washing machine before the wife finds it!!

28. If you had a good date; share her # with everyone you can vouch for. Get a pic too.

29. Don’t RUSH into anything! They will be out there later. There is always another girl.

30. Be aware of your surroundings. Look for LE , look for LE in unmarked cars, look for guys nearby, other girls? Is there too much action going on? Is the girl glued to one spot and won't move (decoy) or does she walk the streets from spot to spot? Does she talk thru the window?

31. Watch how other guys pick up, or try to pick up, and avoid their mistakes. But also it gives you a clue about the girls they are trying to pick up.

32. DO NOT drop them off where you picked them up or on the main drag. I always drop off at least a block or two away.

33. If you want to extend the time of the date. Be prepared to give them DATY. this always adds a good half hour to the date. Most like it, some don't. YOU must like it though.

34. DO NOT date anyone that goes by the name of Delicious. Trust me ...she is far from it. Nickname: BOOTFACE. do a search!

35. Be respectful to these girls, even if you get ROB'ed.

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Below is another post (original RB post: massageman2020) I tacked onto this one. If you follow the above, less chance you need what is listed below.

Ten Things NOT to do If Arrested:

I have been practicing criminal law for 31 years and have seen a wide variety of reactions by people who are being arrested. Some of these reactions are unwise but understandable. Others are self defeating to the point of being bizarre. No one plans to be arrested, but it might help to think just once about what you will do and not do if you ever hear the phrase "Put your hands behind you." The simplest "to do" rule is to do what you are told. Simple, but somehow it often escapes someone who is either scared or intoxicated. More important to guarding your rights and interests are ten things you SHOULD NOT do:

1. Don't try to convince the officer of your innocence. It's useless. He or she only needs "probable cause" to believe you have committed a crime in order to arrest you. He does not decide your guilt and he actually doesn't care if you are innocent or not. It is the job of the judge or jury to free you if he is wrong. If you feel that urge to convince him he's made a mistake, remember the overwhelming probability that instead you will say at least one thing that will hurt your case, perhaps even fatally. It is smarter to save your defense for your lawyer.

2. Don't run. It's highly unlikely a suspect could outrun ten radio cars converging on a block in mere seconds. I saw a case where a passenger being driven home by a drunk friend bolted and ran. Why? It was the driver they wanted, and she needlessly risked injury in a forceful arrest. Even worse, the police might have suspected she ran because she had a gun, perhaps making them too quick to draw their own firearms. Most police will just arrest a runner, but there are some who will be mad they had to work so hard and injure the suspect unnecessarily.

3. Keep quiet. My hardest cases to defend are those where the suspect got very talkative. Incredibly, many will start babbling without the police having asked a single question. My most vivid memory of this problem was the armed robbery suspect who blurted to police: "How could the guy identify me? The robbers were wearing masks." To which the police smiled and responded, "Oh? Were they?" Judges and juries will discount or ignore what a suspect says that helps him, but give great weight to anything that seems to hurt him. In 24 years of criminal practice, I could count on one hand the number of times a suspect was released because of what he told the police after they arrested him.

4. Don't give permission to search anywhere. If they ask, it probably means they don't believe they have the right to search and need your consent. If you are ordered to hand over your keys, state loudly "You do NOT have my permission to search." If bystanders hear you, whatever the police find may be excluded from evidence later. This is also a good reason not to talk, even if it seems all is lost when they find something incriminating.

5. If the police are searching your car or home, don't look at the places you wish they wouldn't search. Don't react to the search at all, and especially not to questions like "Who does this belong to?"

6. Don't resist arrest. Above all, do not push the police or try to swat their hands away. That would be assaulting an officer and any slight injury to them will turn your minor misdemeanor arrest into a felony. A petty shoplifter can wind up going to state prison that way. Resisting arrest (such as pulling away) is merely a misdemeanor and often the police do not even charge that offense. Obviously, striking an officer can result in serious injury to you as well.

7. Try to resist the temptation to mouth off at the police, even if you have been wrongly arrested. Police have a lot of discretion in what charges are brought. They can change a misdemeanor to a felony, add charges, or even take the trouble to talk directly to the prosecutor and urge him to go hard on you. On the other hand, I have seen a client who was friendly to the police and talked sports and such on the way to the station. They gave him a break. Notice he did not talk about his case, however.

8. Do not believe what the police tell you in order to get you to talk. The law permits them to lie to a suspect in order to get him to make admissions. For example, they will separate two friends who have been arrested and tell the first one that the second one squealed on him. The first one then squeals on the second, though in truth the second one never said anything. An even more common example is telling a suspect that if he talks to the police, "it will go easier." Well, that's sort of true. It will be much easier for the police to prove their case. I can't remember too many cases where the prosecutor gave the defendant an easier deal because he waived his right to silence and confessed.

9. If at home, do not invite the police inside, nor should you "step outside." If the police believe you have committed a felony, they usually need an arrest warrant to go into your home to arrest you. If they ask you to "step outside", you will have solved that problem for them. The correct responses are: "I am comfortable talking right here.", "No, you may not come in.", or "Do you have a warrant to enter or to arrest me in my home?" I am not suggesting that you run. In fact, that is the best way to ensure the harshest punishment later on. But you may not find it so convenient to be arrested Friday night when all the courts and law offices are closed. With an attorney, you can perhaps surrender after bail arrangements are made and spend NO time in custody while your case is pending.

10. If you are arrested outside your home, do not accept any offers to let you go inside to get dressed, change, get a jacket, call your wife, or any other reason. The police will of course escort you inside and then search everywhere they please, again without a warrant. Likewise decline offers to secure your car safely.
That's it: Ten simple rules that will leave as many of your rights intact as possible if you are arrested. How about a short test? You have a fight with your live-in girlfriend and the police come and find you on the sidewalk two houses down from the apartment. The girlfriend points you out and the police arrest you for assault. They tell you they don't intend to question you. They just want your name and address. Do you answer? Well, you shouldn't. Your address is the single most damaging admission you could make. If you admit living with her, you have just converted a misdemeanor assault into a felony punishable by state prison. When you are arrested it is their game, and you don't know the rules. It is best to be silent and let the attorney handle it later. The bottom line is that if the police have enough evidence to arrest, they will. If they don't, you could easily provide that missing evidence by talking.

*LINK*: http://www.dinday.com/info01.htm

A. Brian Dinday
Attorney at Law.

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